taken wrote: Some "light reading" for you. Only 80 pages. Bottom line is ST and LT tires qualify for their max ratings in a different way so even LT tires rated at a lower pressure than ST's are really capable of more. You'll wish you didn't click this...
I grew up in western Ma.
Ya I've read that, 80 fuggin pages, some good info but lots of info I'm not really so sure is accurate, like fill your tires 10# over the max limit to increase their capacity??? makes me wonder.
Anyhow, thanks everyone that replied.
Will take the advice from the majority of what I've gotten from the forum threads and go with LT tires.Probably the Ribs, or Bridgestone Duravis R250... but maybe the lighter Commercial T/A BF Goodrich.
Seems the heavier the tire the better it is? lmao...
Or that is what the specs and forum LT tire preference shows. Kind of makes sense.
So the Bridgestone Duravis250 is 4 lbs heavier than the Rib. It is the heaviest 245/75 16E I could find. Does this mean it is better than the Ribs? Or just that it will wear out your bearings that much faster.
These top of the line LT tires seem to be almost twice as heavy as the Trailer tires that came on the TH, are the axles/bearings up for this increase ? Or is this considerably extra tire weight not a concern?
taken wrote: I would say the Rib's are the best not based on weight, but rather that Michelin tires always seem to be the best in most categories. I wouldn't worry about the weight in relation to your bearings or axles. Tires and wheels are what's termed "unsprung weight" which means it's not carried by the axles or bearings. That weight is only carried by the wheels and tires themselves.
Yes I agree. Michelin is the best tire made in most cases.
Michelin sure is proud of the Ribs. They are almost $300.00 each. So 7 tires will cost me over $2000. Wow, got to love these toy haulers.
Anybody know of a reasonably priced mobile tire guy that does the GDS/Brawley area. My TH is at GDS now with 2 China bombs ready to pop. 1 tire is showing its belts with large sections of tread missing, the other is just missing lots of tread that seemed to peel off in big blocks... Think it will make it to Brawley (28 miles)without a blowout... I've got 1 good spare,should I put it on, and leave the other china bomb with the missing tread blocks and chance it ?
I would say the Rib's are the best not based on weight, but rather that Michelin tires always seem to be the best in most categories. I wouldn't worry about the weight in relation to your bearings or axles. Tires and wheels are what's termed "unsprung weight" which means it's not carried by the axles or bearings. That weight is only carried by the wheels and tires themselves.
Yeah the ST may well be rated for another 500 lbs capacity but if its not reliable why waste money on a non reliable tire.
The XPS Ribs are a commercial grade all steel carcass tire. Another same constructed commercial grade all steel carcass tire that aren't so pricey is the Bridgestone Duravis R250 that many forum members are using with the same great sucess.
The Firestone Transforce H/T is another good LT tire for heavy trailer service.
"good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" ............ Will Rogers
'03 2500 QC Dodge/Cummins HO 3.73 6 speed manual Jacobs Westach
'97 Park Avanue 28' 5er 11200 gvwr two slides
The 3 axles are rated at 6815# each, and the front tongue is rated at 24,600#.
Are you saying the trailer's certification label/tire placard depicts your axles as each having a GAWR of 6815#???
FastEagle
I stand corrected. Good catch FastEagle... The actual axle rating is, WW FSW3200 certification label/tire placard says GAWR of 6645# not 6815.
http://www.a1warriortrailers.com/fsw.htm
JIMNLIN wrote: Yeah the ST may well be rated for another 500 lbs capacity but if its not reliable why waste money on a non reliable tire.
The XPS Ribs are a commercial grade all steel carcass tire. Another same constructed commercial grade all steel carcass tire that aren't so pricey is the Bridgestone Duravis R250 that many forum members are using with the same great sucess.
The Firestone Transforce H/T is another good LT tire for heavy trailer service.
Yes, I agree, that is basically the reason for my thread here.
It seems like the tires load rating in my case, is less of a concern than the speed rating.
I cruise at 55-65 max on open roads. That is either close to or over the 62mph max speed rating of trailer tires.
Where as the actual fully loaded TH weight is probably at something like 75% of max rating of LT tire load rating of 3042#, and maybe 65% of the max speed rating(99mph). With the trailer tires 3400-3600#, load is around 65% but speed rating is maxed out pretty much...
Seems lots more leeway before reaching the combined max of BOTH speed and load limit ratings of the tire with the LT's.
Thanks again guys, this discussion has helped me with my TH tire selection. Lots of good advice and recommended tire selection given here.
The 3 axles are rated at 6815# each, and the front tongue is rated at 24,600#.
Are you saying the trailer's certification label/tire placard depicts your axles as each having a GAWR of 6815#???
FastEagle
I stand corrected. Good catch FastEagle... The actual axle rating is, WW FSW3200 certification label/tire placard says GAWR of 6645# not 6815.
http://www.a1warriortrailers.com/fsw.htm
You can't go by this stuff from Warrior.
You have alot more tongue weight than that.
I have a tongue weight scale and when I had a FS3000 Warrior, my unloaded tongue weight was 1400lbs. With full water and no toys, 1700lbs of tongue weight. With full water and toys, back down to 1400lbs of tongue weight.
You have alot more tongue weight than that.
I have a tongue weight scale and when I had a FS3000 Warrior, my unloaded tongue weight was 1400lbs. With full water and no toys, 1700lbs of tongue weight. With full water and toys, back down to 1400lbs of tongue weight.
Oh ya ,I know the tongue is probably over 2000# on my set up. And unloaded weight is way more. But in Warrior's defense I do have lots of extra options. Like a second a/c on the front roof,air compressor,very very heavy big agm batteries, etc... On the scales a few months ago, with no water,no toys, maybe 3/4 tanks of fuel, and some tools, bedding, cloths, food, total TV & TH weight was 19,030lbs. We did a little math and the tongue weight looked like it was over 2000#.
You think Warrior lied about their axle weight ratings also? I guess it wouldn't surprise me.
It says the same thing on the sticker up front,and WW original bill of sale, GAWR6645 lb
Is there a place on the actual axle with the rating ?
It never made sense to me that the max gvwr is 13,000 but it has three 6645# axles and a tongue with a sticker on it that says 24,000.
That would mean the combined axles are capable of 19,935#... so why only the 13,000 GVWR ??? If the frame is the reason why, then why put axles on that are way over the frames capability ? Why not use cheaper 5000lbs axles with 15 inch tires. Three 5000lbs axles would still give more than enough load to support the 13,000 TH gvwr...?
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