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Again...... Lay out the ultimate fuel cost numbers, based on a certain number of miles traveled and then tell me this is worth agonizing over.

5000 mi fuel used tot cost
gas 8mpg 3.95 625 2468.75
diesel 10mpg 4.25 500 2125

-343.75
We're talking $350/YEAR @ 5,000 miles.

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If you lay out the real world numbers, given the fact that a DP is larger and weighs more than the typical gasser, then note that a class A of either Diesel or gas will get you somewhere around 8mpg, then FINALLY note that $3.95 gas vs $4.25 diesel is very close............. All this will tell you that it really doesn't matter.
But Paul, you fail to consider the Tiffin Breeze, the Monaco Vesta, the Holiday Rambler Trip, the Winnebago Via, the Thor Serrano, the Damon Avanti. They all offer way over 10 mpg and their prices are comparable to new gas class A motorhomes.


* This post was edited 04/12/12 01:13pm by paulcardoza *


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Just to clarify one point made by the OP, with all the billions of barrels of oil and billions of cubic feet of natural gas in the ground just for the drilling and taking, at no time during your lifetime will french fry oil and pond scum produce any significant portion of our transportation fuel no matter how many tax dollars the politicians throw at them.


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Why does diesel cost more when it's less refined than gasoline?


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Because they can charge more........

Effy wrote:

Why does diesel cost more when it's less refined than gasoline?


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Effy wrote:

Why does diesel cost more when it's less refined than gasoline?


Supply and demand.

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workhardplayharder wrote:

Effy wrote:

Why does diesel cost more when it's less refined than gasoline?


Supply and demand.


I would guess global demand more than domestic huh? Taxed more too I suppose and greater EPA sulfur restrictions. Good ol guvmint saving us from ourselves - and of course handing us the check.

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Effy wrote:

Why does diesel cost more when it's less refined than gasoline?


Diesel fuel and jet fuel are essentially the same refined product. Think of all the engines (trucks, ships, boats, generators, mining machines, trains) and add into that all the jet airplanes and you begin to understand the extent of the demand. In addition there are higher taxes (Federal) on diesel fuel.

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Posted: 04/12/12 02:08pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Hard to say what will happen in 30 years. The old debate gas vs. diesel still rules.


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workhardplayharder wrote:

The only way to economically justify the cost of a diesel is if you plan to load the RV beyond the capacity of a gas unit or drive a lot of miles.
Judging by your statement, I'd say you've never owned a diesel MH.
To me, your reason would be around 98 on a list of "100 important reasons' to own diesel".

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Be nice, maybe it's # 95 of the reasons. Diesel has 18% more energy than gas so $4.00 diesel is equal to $3.52 gas. Agree we will never see the day when pond scum will provide 5% of our motor fuel needs.


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