GWnKIDS
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I want to thank everyone for all of the insight. Coming from a 5er we are looking forward to a large picture window and a more conferrable ride.
God Bless
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RFCN2
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When we were looking at motor homes in 2009 we drove a bunch of very nice class A's. The coach we bought had the best / most solid ride. We have a tag. Another benefit is a tag will steady downhill engine braking when the traction is not perfect. You are supposed to not use the engine brake when it is raining. I have found that in our coach with a tag I can leave it on. The only disadvantage I can think of is two extra tires to buy.
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lmcgill
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CA Traveler wrote:Maybe these weights help: Fully loaded, full water, fuel and propane.
Front 14.1K, Drive 19.2K, Tag 8.8K, side to side very evenly balanced on each axle.
Plus our 36' 04 was 29K, 330 ISC, 8.3 MPH
And this rig 42', 09, 42.1K, 400 ISL and guess what 8.3 MPH!!! There is something to be said for a newer clean burning engine that pushes 13K more weight at the same MPH. I truly was not expecting that!!!
At 8.3 MPH you should be getting at least 18 MPG I would think?
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CA Traveler
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"At 8.3 MPH you should be getting at least 18 MPG I would think?"
It just takes me a long time to get anywhere.  Corrected and thanks for letting me know.
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RayChez
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The only thing tag axle does is gives you more carry capacity. It also gives you a more stable coach on cross winds. And that is about it. All this BS that non tag axle coaches porpoise is nothing but BS. A forty foot diesel pusher will give you a nice ride and incoming big rigs on two lane roads are no problem. You won't even feel any buffing.
It is also two more tires to buy and it also takes away a compartment, plus most will have a side radiator that takes another compartment space. But they are a must on any coach over 42 feet long.
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Mike and Trish
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RayChez wrote:The only thing tag axle does is gives you more carry capacity. It also gives you a more stable coach on cross winds. And that is about it. All this BS that non tag axle coaches porpoise is nothing but BS. A forty foot diesel pusher will give you a nice ride and incoming big rigs on two lane roads are no problem. You won't even feel any buffing.
It is also two more tires to buy and it also takes away a compartment, plus most will have a side radiator that takes another compartment space. But they are a must on any coach over 42 feet long.
Yup, that's about right ... "all" my tag axle does for me is:
- provides much more carrying capacity (I figure a net of more than 5,000 extra lbs. - the 10,000-lb. GAWR of the tag axle, minus the weight of the components themselves)
- gives a more stable ride all around, including bumps, crosswinds, etc.
- adds an extra set of brakes
- lets me have a coach nearly 45 ft. long, with plenty of room for that extra half-bath and everything else
We love our big coach, and the tag axle that makes it possible.
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Trap
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While I can't say about the difference in driving a non-tag vs tag (have only test drove tags so far) for us wanting to fulltime when we started looking I'll just use this modle for an example, the 2011 Winnebago Tour 40cd, optioned out to our specs was left with 1700lbs CCC, that just was not gonna be acceptable for us. While we could probably get by with that, I just didn;t want a coach that I had to constantly worry about how much weight we're carrying. Would much rather have a nice cushion on the CCC than running at the max.
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CA Traveler
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Trap wrote:While I can't say about the difference in driving a non-tag vs tag (have only test drove tags so far) for us wanting to fulltime when we started looking I'll just use this modle for an example, the 2011 Winnebago Tour 40cd, optioned out to our specs was left with 1700lbs CCC, that just was not gonna be acceptable for us. While we could probably get by with that, I just didn;t want a coach that I had to constantly worry about how much weight we're carrying. Would much rather have a nice cushion on the CCC than running at the max. Another factor to consider is can you actually use all of the CCC? Neither of my Monacos had adequate/usable cabinet or storage space to reach the max CCC short of using sand bags. The real question is do you have enough storage space and when fully loaded (including fuel, propane and water) are you under the limits.
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dave from mesa
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I guess I am in the minority here. Only driven 2 coaches in recent years. Our first was a 2001 Alergo Buss. We now have a HR. Do I see a diff? Yes, but it is 10 yrs newer technology. We don't have a lot of miles on our HR so maybe later this year I will change mind. It handles the wind better but it should being newer. Maybe I haven't been in a strong enough crosswind yet.
This coach has all we wanted so this is not a complaint and we never run at max weight.
Would I do it again? You bettcha. The biggest diff I see with this coach is the stopping power. Real nice having 6 disc's. For this diff in money you are talking I would go with the tag.
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Trap
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CA Traveler wrote:Trap wrote:While I can't say about the difference in driving a non-tag vs tag (have only test drove tags so far) for us wanting to fulltime when we started looking I'll just use this modle for an example, the 2011 Winnebago Tour 40cd, optioned out to our specs was left with 1700lbs CCC, that just was not gonna be acceptable for us. While we could probably get by with that, I just didn;t want a coach that I had to constantly worry about how much weight we're carrying. Would much rather have a nice cushion on the CCC than running at the max. Another factor to consider is can you actually use all of the CCC? Neither of my Monacos had adequate/usable cabinet or storage space to reach the max CCC short of using sand bags. The real question is do you have enough storage space and when fully loaded (including fuel, propane and water) are you under the limits.
I think DW and myself could easily add 1700lbs in all of the coaches we have looked at.
I would much sooner have a 2,000lbs of unused capacity than constantly having to worry about how heavy we are and having a coach that is maxed out on weights
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