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Posted: 04/12/12 09:30pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

You have 2, size 8 Solar cable/wires, one is 7 strand and the other is 50+ strands,both are copper material, both are identical (except for the strand count), would the resistance be the same for each cable/wire?


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Posted: 04/12/12 09:36pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

It should be the same because the wires are supposed to have equal copper cross-sections. There are some differences, however, with different wire types: AWG wire is thicker than SAE wire of the same gauge, and welding wire is generally thicker than non-welding wire. But in the same wire class, any wire of the same gauge is supposed to have the same copper cross section, and therefore the same DC resistance.


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Posted: 04/12/12 10:13pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

They'll have different current carrying ratings. The 7 strand will carry more.


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In extremely high frequency applications the finer stranding will carry more.

Go with high quality AWG wire with really thick insulation. SEAL THE ENDS with meltable inner liner heat shrink tubing to prevent O2 from migrating into the cable and oxidizing the copper strands.

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Posted: 04/13/12 03:10am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Yep, the resistance is different, but probably negligible.

As the stranding goes up, the resistance goes up.

The effect is very small, like 0.014 ohms per 1000 ft., but it is there.

This can be measured, but you would need a DLRO (Digital Low Resistance Ohmmeter) to do it. It measures micro-ohms. 1 micro-ohm = 0.000001ohm. Your average test meter in your house is not going to measure that.

Also, there is differences in resistance from different manufacturers of wire. If you know the manufacturer of both pieces, you could probably look up the specs on the wire and find the ohms per 1000ft. rating.

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Posted: 04/13/12 07:39am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

mena661 wrote:

They'll have different current carrying ratings. The 7 strand will carry more.


8 gauge is 8 gauge. Both are AWG and both will have the same 24 amp power transmission rating. If there is a difference it will be very small.


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garym114 wrote:

mena661 wrote:

They'll have different current carrying ratings. The 7 strand will carry more.


8 gauge is 8 gauge. Both are AWG and both will have the same 24 amp power transmission rating. If there is a difference it will be very small.
Going by this chart:

Voltage Drop calc

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Here's a table that give resistance data for solid vs. stranded wire:

http://www.accesscomms.com.au/Reference/awgselection.htm

It shows, that depending on the exact stranding, the resistance of the stranded wire may be more or less than the same gauge solid wire, but is always very close. The biggest size on the table is unfortunately 14 gauge. I assume the same principle would hold for larger wires.

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Posted: 04/13/12 10:31am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

What randrx2 said. How are you going to measure the differance. But more importantly why do you want to? More surface area, lower resistance Skin effect, they say the current runs on the outside of the wire, not thru it. Concernd? get a bigger wire.

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Posted: 04/13/12 10:55am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

mena661 wrote:

garym114 wrote:

mena661 wrote:

They'll have different current carrying ratings. The 7 strand will carry more.


8 gauge is 8 gauge. Both are AWG and both will have the same 24 amp power transmission rating. If there is a difference it will be very small.
Going by this chart:

Voltage Drop calc


Calulator is for wires in a bundle....not strands in a wire.

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