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Don't quite understand the problem. I have a 16k slider....takes maybe 30 seconds to get out of the truck and move it ahead or back. Why wouldn't you do it every time?


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pjhansman wrote:

Don't quite understand the problem. I have a 16k slider....takes maybe 30 seconds to get out of the truck and move it ahead or back. Why wouldn't you do it every time?


The OP isn't questioning the process as I am sure he knows this. Circumstances are different for everyone. Why he wants to do this isn't our concern


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dubdub07 wrote:

pjhansman wrote:

Don't quite understand the problem. I have a 16k slider....takes maybe 30 seconds to get out of the truck and move it ahead or back. Why wouldn't you do it every time?


The OP isn't questioning the process as I am sure he knows this. Circumstances are different for everyone. Why he wants to do this isn't our concern


The positions on the sliding hitch are clearly labeled "towing" and "maneuvering". Very clear in my opinion. My point was....if something takes only a few seconds than why would you consider doing it the wrong way?

It is also "relatively safe" at times not to wear your seatbelt, but I wear mine whenever I'm in a moving vehicle.

My apologies for not getting your approval prior to posting this reply.

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I wouldn't compare towing a fiver with the hitch in a slid back position with towing a conventional travel trailer. Remember, a conventional travel trailer uses spring bars which transfer some of the tongue weight to the truck's front wheels and the trailer's wheels.

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pjhansman wrote:

Don't quite understand the problem. I have a 16k slider....takes maybe 30 seconds to get out of the truck and move it ahead or back. Why wouldn't you do it every time?
Seriously, are you really that lucky that you always have the room to jump out and move it? Probably half the time I have to get through town first before I can find a safe place to put it back into tow.

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Mile High wrote:

pjhansman wrote:

Don't quite understand the problem. I have a 16k slider....takes maybe 30 seconds to get out of the truck and move it ahead or back. Why wouldn't you do it every time?
Seriously, are you really that lucky that you always have the room to jump out and move it? Probably half the time I have to get through town first before I can find a safe place to put it back into tow.


Seriously, you're missing the point.

Yes, there've been times when I've had to pull for a distance with the slide in the maneuvering position. Because I HAD to.

There is a huge difference between advocating or condoning doing something wrong (and yes I consider it wrong) by choice, compared to doing it wrong because you have no alternative.

Just my opinion of course.

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I don't see a problem with what he's doing... He's just running down a road a piece. Perhaps the slides on his hitch are older and don't work like new anymore.

As far as comparing to a bumper tow...you're right --- It's no comparison...

Let's assume a 2000 lb pin weight...4" aft of the axle... 2000x4=8000lb-in of force being applied to "lift the front tires"...

Now...Let's look at how many lbs of tongue weight on a TT would give the same ammount of force... On a short bed truck...the hitch ball is at least 35" aft of the axle... so 8000 lb-in / 35" = 228 lbs of tongue weight. I don't know anybody hauling a TT with a 228 lb tongue weight.

Regardless of what the OP does...he's still better off, in my mind, than towing a TT.

The only thing that he has to worry about really is how well the hitch rails can hold the weight in the maneuver position. I haven't looked at how much they reinforce the rails in the tow position v. the maneuver position. I can't imagine it's that big a deal to drive 10 miles down the road round trip.

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pjhansman wrote:

Mile High wrote:

pjhansman wrote:

Don't quite understand the problem. I have a 16k slider....takes maybe 30 seconds to get out of the truck and move it ahead or back. Why wouldn't you do it every time?
Seriously, are you really that lucky that you always have the room to jump out and move it? Probably half the time I have to get through town first before I can find a safe place to put it back into tow.


Seriously, you're missing the point.

Yes, there've been times when I've had to pull for a distance with the slide in the maneuvering position. Because I HAD to.

There is a huge difference between advocating or condoning doing something wrong (and yes I consider it wrong) by choice, compared to doing it wrong because you have no alternative.

Just my opinion of course.
Ah - OK. I re-read the OPs question and I see where you are coming from.

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Mile High wrote:

pjhansman wrote:

Mile High wrote:

pjhansman wrote:

Don't quite understand the problem. I have a 16k slider....takes maybe 30 seconds to get out of the truck and move it ahead or back. Why wouldn't you do it every time?
Seriously, are you really that lucky that you always have the room to jump out and move it? Probably half the time I have to get through town first before I can find a safe place to put it back into tow.


Seriously, you're missing the point.

Yes, there've been times when I've had to pull for a distance with the slide in the maneuvering position. Because I HAD to.

There is a huge difference between advocating or condoning doing something wrong (and yes I consider it wrong) by choice, compared to doing it wrong because you have no alternative.

Just my opinion of course.
Ah - OK. I re-read the OPs question and I see where you are coming from.


I still don't. It isn't unsafe nor illegal. The only reason I could see would be 1000 miles in the rear position might put 20% more wear on the truck.......

It is, however, illegal NOT to wear your seatbelt. Whether you choose to wear it or not.......

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If your front wheels come off the ground, reconsider.

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