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SoCalDesertRider

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Posted: 04/14/12 10:23am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

For RV camping and boating at the same time, your best solution is to buy a one-ton truck, a slide-on truck camper, and pull the boat behind that.

Much simpler than pulling 2 trailers. No maximum length laws or double towing laws to be concerned with, much easier to park and manuever and don't have to drop the first trailer to launch the boat. Also one less trailer to register and maintain tires, brakes, lights and wheel bearings on. A truck camper, having a smaller footprint than a typical travel trailer or fifth wheel, is easier to store when not using too.

They make some very nice slide-on truck campers these days. You do need at least a 3/4-ton truck to haul most of them, or preferably a one-ton.

That is how I grew up camping. We camped in a Six-Pac truck camper loaded in the back of pop's Chevy 3/4-ton camper special model truck, pulling the ski boat behind. Great times at the lakes and river.


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SoCalDesertRider wrote:

For RV camping and boating at the same time, your best solution is to buy a one-ton truck, a slide-on truck camper, and pull the boat behind that.

Much simpler than pulling 2 trailers. No maximum length laws or double towing laws to be concerned with, much easier to park and manuever and don't have to drop the first trailer to launch the boat. Also one less trailer to register and maintain tires, brakes, lights and wheel bearings on. A truck camper, having a smaller footprint than a typical travel trailer or fifth wheel, is easier to store when not using too.

They make some very nice slide-on truck campers these days. You do need at least a 3/4-ton truck to haul most of them, or preferably a one-ton.

That is how I grew up camping. We camped in a Six-Pac truck camper loaded in the back of pop's Chevy 3/4-ton camper special model truck, pulling the ski boat behind. Great times at the lakes and river.


That one I may look into...The only problem is the 1ton truck for 365 days/year...Cost and feasibility will go into it... I wish I were in the construction business or ag business. Then I would have a reason to buy a 3/4 or 1ton truck

* This post was edited 04/14/12 01:12pm by Tent-2-5er *

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Tent-2-5er.. I currently own the Wildwood 24BHSS model, its a 2008 model. I had mine wieghed and its right about what your posted wieghts are for that fifth wheel. Overall its a great fiver, we are going to sell ours and go for a true bunk house. The reasoning is I only have 1 child, however...all of the nieces come along and before ya know it we get a little short on room. PM if you have any questions about the 24BHSS model If I can help you out.
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FYI, the yellow tag payload value for an F-150 Screw 4x4 Ecoboost HD has consistenly been 2238#.

Here is a good spreadsheet that help me run different truck/trailer combinations.

Here is the spreadsheet (google docs). If you want to make changes, you will need to download it.

Towing Capacity Worksheet


I just ordered my truck today.

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sranderle wrote:

FYI, the yellow tag payload value for an F-150 Screw 4x4 Ecoboost HD has consistenly been 2238#.

Here is a good spreadsheet that help me run different truck/trailer combinations.

Here is the spreadsheet (google docs). If you want to make changes, you will need to download it.

Towing Capacity Worksheet


I just ordered my truck today.


What did you end up ordering? If going with the Ecoboost and a 5th wheel let me know how that goes.

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I think you are underestimating the weights and available payload. What about the 200 pounds 5th wheel receiver? What about all the stuff in basement that adds to the dry pin weight? Stick to a good sized TT. Rent a boat or buy and inflatable. If trips are short distance, tow with second vehicle, crossover, etc.


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Tent-2-5er wrote:

Last thing...The box can take the remaining or all of the payload as per the manufacturer right? I just don't understand the 1/2 ton designation if the payload can be 2000lbs?

Thanks,


Really outdated clasification. The reality is the Modern '1/2 tons' probably out perform just about any 3/4 or 1 ton from 20 years ago.

Just be sure to realize that max payload listed online, and actual payload when a vehicle is spec'd out with options will be two very different numbers.


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Fordlover wrote:

Tent-2-5er wrote:

Last thing...The box can take the remaining or all of the payload as per the manufacturer right? I just don't understand the 1/2 ton designation if the payload can be 2000lbs?

Thanks,


Really outdated clasification. The reality is the Modern '1/2 tons' probably out perform just about any 3/4 or 1 ton from 20 years ago.

Just be sure to realize that max payload listed online, and actual payload when a vehicle is spec'd out with options will be two very different numbers.


Thanks for the 1/2 ton to 3/4 ton note, that is something that I was unsure of.

Yep... The number I got was from their site which breaks down the Crewcab...Ecoboost...HD package...Max Trailer Tow Package... The only ones not accounted for would be the random convenience packages, chrome(which I will not do), etc. Sounds like these packages don't change the payload all that much.

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Here's what I ordered.

2012 F-150 XLT SuperCrew
4wd
6.5' box
3.73 Limited Slip
Ecoboost
HD Payload package
Max Tow package
XLT Convenience Package
XLT Plus Package
Rear View Camera

The marketed payload for this truck is 2310#. Others that have bought this truck have confirmed that the yellow tag payload is 2238#.

I am looking to tow a hybrid travel trailer with four adults in the truck and a full topper. Based on my estimates, it will handle that load quite nicely, and still get better mileage and have a better ride than a Super Duty. I've been driving both since last fall. When I need the bigger truck, I will upgrade. Until then, I will have a nice daily driver, and a very capable tow vehicle.

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sranderle wrote:

Here's what I ordered.

2012 F-150 XLT SuperCrew
4wd
6.5' box
3.73 Limited Slip
Ecoboost
HD Payload package
Max Tow package
XLT Convenience Package
XLT Plus Package
Rear View Camera

The marketed payload for this truck is 2310#. Others that have bought this truck have confirmed that the yellow tag payload is 2238#.

I am looking to tow a hybrid travel trailer with four adults in the truck and a full topper. Based on my estimates, it will handle that load quite nicely, and still get better mileage and have a better ride than a Super Duty. I've been driving both since last fall. When I need the bigger truck, I will upgrade. Until then, I will have a nice daily driver, and a very capable tow vehicle.


My yellow tag show 2200 lbs available without driver. Differences from this one are SCAB, 8', bed side steps, after market nurf bars (sits too high), and the 36 gallon tank.


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