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Weazletoe

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Posted: 04/14/12 12:04am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I just went over to Edmunds.com. It say my GVW is 8600# and the payload is 3428#. Don't know what stickers I was reading. Guess I'll find out tomorrow. :-)


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Posted: 04/14/12 12:06am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Weight the truck then the rear axle.
Check the sidewalls of the tires for the max load.
Tire weight X2, minus the rear axle weight.
I think you'll be good to go unless someone put lower rated tires on the truck.


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Posted: 04/14/12 12:38am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Weazletoe wrote:

I just went over to Edmunds.com. It say my GVW is 8600# and the payload is 3428#. Don't know what stickers I was reading. Guess I'll find out tomorrow. :-)
Never trust information from Edmunds. They are very inaccurate in their specs, often mixing specs from different models of trucks that make no sense at all.

Those numbers are simply wrong. It's not mathematically possible to have an 8600 GVWR and a 3400 lb payload capacity in a truck that weighs over 6000 lbs empty.

The 8600 GVWR is for a 2500 truck, to the best of my knowledge. If you have a 3500, the GVWR is 9K+. Should be 9200, if my memory serves me right.

The 3428 lb payload capacity is likely for the 3500 dually, which had 10K GVWR and 7500 RGAWR.


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Get an owners manual for the truck. You need one anyway. A dealer should be able to get it for you.

And go to a scale and get your weights.


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Got the numbers off my sticker this morning.
GVWR = 8600
GAWR Front = 4250
GAWR Rear =6000
Tires are 3042 @ 80psi

I did look in the glovebox again, and it does say the cargo weight is 1757. But, that sticker is in reference to slide in campers, so maybe that makes a difference?

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Weazletoe wrote:

Got the numbers off my sticker this morning.
GVWR = 8600
GAWR Front = 4250
GAWR Rear =6000
Tires are 3042 @ 80psi

I did look in the glovebox again, and it does say the cargo weight is 1757. But, that sticker is in reference to slide in campers, so maybe that makes a difference?
With 8600 GVWR, it looks like you have a 2500 model 3/4-ton truck.

With 8600 GVWR, your payload capacity is likely 2000-2200 lbs. Weigh the truck to be sure of it's weight and subtract that from the GVWR.

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Yeah, it does seem light for a 1 ton, but according to the 3500 stuck to both sides of it, and the sixth did get of the vin, its a 1 ton.

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GVWR's change over time to appease both the marketing 'King of the Hill' stuff
and folks demand ever bigger trailers/trucks/etc

My 1980 Silverado C10 is a 'Big Ten', which was the 'heavy half' of it's day
GVWR is 6,200 lbs. A 3/4 ton of that era was 7,600 GVWR

Today's regular half ton's are in the 7,600 GVWR range and the 'heavy half' of
today is in the 8,100GVWR range

Best to use the GVWR in reference, as using marketing stuff bits if you don't
also add the suffix's and the era it was built

Agree SoCal knows his trucks...albeit haven't seen much in regards to Dodge...yet


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This is interesting because all the way back in the 70's...

my '77 Chevy K20 3/4-ton 4wd had an 8600 GVWR
pop's '73 Chevy 2wd C20 3/4-ton had 8200 GVWR
my '82 GMC 2wd C3500 dually had 10,000 GVWR
my '92 F350SRW 4wd has 9200 GVWR

Doesn't make any sense that a '90 K3500 would have 8600 GVWR....

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Posted: 04/16/12 01:23am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

In 1988 GM changed body style and got stupid with GVWR's for some reason. My 1988 GMC 2500 standard cab 2 w/d LB 5.7 gasser only had a 7200lb GVWR and a 3.42 rear axle.......I don't know what model year they got back to 8600# GVWR for the 2500's.


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