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eric james wrote:

4800 dry will be around 5800 loaded.

5800 x 13% = 750 estimated tongue weight.

You'll exceed your tongue weight limit and have 200 lbs left of payload for passengers and fuel in the Toyota.

I wouldn't recommend it.


Yup. What he said. Been there, done it.


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I understand the math for the tongue weight, but what am I missing on "200 lbs left of payload for passengers and fuel in the Toyota?"





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cnpbiskit wrote:

So uhm... how would it ever be possible/practical to reach that 7000 lb tow limit/12000 combined limit, if all other recommendations are observed? IS it possible, or is that 7000 lb number just something used as marketing?


Ever notice that a lot of the TV ads show the trucks pulling boats? Boats have lighter tongue weight (10%). So, a 7000# boat would have a 700# tongue weight, and will leave you 250# for you and the missus to go boating. Hopefully you're not too big of a guy.
They advertise tow capacity, they don't advertise what you can tow at that capacity.

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Most of the time you will exceed your GVWR/payload waaay before you get to the vehicles towing limit. This would appear to be the case for you. If you have to have that much TT consider upgrading your TV. Good Luck.

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I towed with a V8 4Runner for a couple years, my issue was not the towing capacity or even the payload it was the short wheel base. I upgraded to the Tundra and feel very comfortable with my set-up now. My trailer was only 19ft long but I felt pretty unsteady at times with any wind or a truck passing...(yes I used a antisway set-up as well).

I love the 4Runner, actually had 3 different ones before the Tundra...but I don't think they make very good long term tow vehicles.


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ohhh... i get it... 950 cargo minus 750 tongue weight = 200.

So uhm... how would it ever be possible/practical to reach that 7000 lb tow limit/12000 combined limit, if all other recommendations are observed? IS it possible, or is that 7000 lb number just something used as marketing?

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Not sure where the load capacity of 950lbs came from but it seems a little low and your GVWR seems a little high. Your T4R is newer than my old '04 but I don't think the numbers changed that much. From what I recall the GVWR for the V8 T4R is 5710lbs and the payload is 1215lbs.

Best thing to do is confirm your GVWR, load the T4R up with people and stuff that would travel in it while towing and go to the scales. Your GVWR minus the scale weight will give you an exact number for what you have left in payload to dedicate to tongue weight.


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The TT you are looking at can be towed easly by the Sequoia, Armada, Expidition or Tahoe/Yukon if you needs require an SUV and it's within your budget.


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Thank you one and all... you've given us a lot to consider, and you've been very helpful.

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Hmmm... Maybe a Tundra is in our future...

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