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Hi there, I'm new to the forum.

We're wanting to upgrade our existing TT (08 Jayco Jayfeather 213) to a double slide model with a bunkhouse. We've considered a quad-style bunkhouse (ie 1 sofa/dinette slide but no slide in bunkhouse) but we want the bunkhouse slide to accommmodate dog crates and sleep/play area for our 2 yr old.

Our current TV is a 2008 Nissan Armada LE 4WD with the tow package upgrade. (9000lb tow capacity, 900 lb hitch wt limit, 15,100 lbs GCWR, 123" wheelbase)

We've considered quite a few trailers and so far we like the Keystone Passport bunkhouses the best. We're looking at the 3220BH or the 3050BH. The 3220 is ~2.5' longer and 500 lbs heavier than the 3050 but both have a hitch weight of 600lbs and a GVWR of 7500lbs.

We'd appreciate any feedback on those two options, or any comparable models/brands that we might want to consider.

Thank you!

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The 3220bh at 36' is way to long for the armada to pull.

They both are fine on weight, but I think your problem is going to be finding a dual slide bunkhouse that meets both the length and weight restrictions for our truck. Someone who knows more than me will be along soon though to give you more info.


Jenn & Wayne (and kids)
2012 Keystone Outback 250rs
2006 Nissan Armada

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I have an Armada and pull a 33ft. I know it is back there but still feels solid with a proper hitch setup and anti sway even when it is windy. I think that you have to pack a bit forward to get a proper towing balance on your trailer. This is where you will have to be careful. The Armada is limited to 910 lbs of tongue weight. I think to have the trailer setup correctly with safe towing, you will be closer then me. He is an example of my setup:


Ok, just to show what the 2011 Nissan Armada w/ factory tow package can tow, here are my weights.

7240lbs- Trailer loaded with all except clothes and food. (The trailer is listed in having around 5600lbs dry weight to give you and idea how far off it can be from loaded.) I do have the fresh water tank about 1/3 full.

800lbs Hitch Weight (11) percent of total weight

As for the Armada:

GVWR- 7150
CVWR- 15100
MAX TOW- 9100
MAX TONGUE- 910
MAX FRONT AXLE- 3399
MAX REAR AXLE- 4299

Actual weights with difference from max:

5400lbs with a half tank of gas (Another 10 gal until full about 80lbs)
7150-5400= 1750 left for payload not including tongue weight
1750-800 (tongue weight)= 950 for rest of payload

Front axle- 2640
3399-2640= 759 left

Rear Axle-3520
4299-3520= 779 left

Tongue weight- 800 (11 percent of total trailer)
910-800=110 left

Gross combined- 12640
15100-12640= 2640 left

With my family of 4 including me, we are under all weights. The "shorter wheel base (123.2 inches)" is no problem with this 33.5ft trailer.

My Dry weight was almost 5600lbs. Weighed in loaded for camping except food and clothes was 7240lbs. Dry hitch was listed at 740lbs and the extra weight on the TV with the trailer attached was 800lbs which was 11% of the total weight. So if you took the 3220BH weight and add close to what I have (1600lbs) then you come to (6100+1600=7700lbs) which will be heavier then the GVWR for the trailer (an issue if you do not pack very lite). Your tongue weight will be a little bit closer to 910 then me and you will have a little less margin on the payload weight. If you are fine with your facts, then go ahead. You are close to the max but I think ok for the TV. That trailer is only a couple feet longer than mine, just get a Equalizer or Reese dual cam and you should be ok. You WILL feel it though and it will be slow going in the mountains if you go there!! In my opinion, the GVWR for the 3220BH is a problem. The other choice will be better on the setup since it is smaller and lighter.


2011 Nissan Armada SL w/Tow Package
2012 Coachmen Freedom Express (292BHDS) Liberty Edition


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