mowermech wrote: "The weight however may be a trade off. Four extra batteries probably weighs no more than the propane tank and hot water heater."
That may be true, but there is also the space issue. The propane tank is out of the way under the coach, and the water heater is out of the way under a counter where the space wouldn't be of much use for anything else. Oh, I suppose a storage bin COULD be put in where they are, and 2 batteries would probably fit in each of them, but no, thanks.
Then again, there has to be something to supply hot water, how much does it weigh, and how much space does it take up?
Let's see...
Heating the house and water with diesel fuel at about $4.10 per gallon, vs using propane at $2.88 a gallon? Would it require 1.5 times as much propane as diesel to do the job? I have wound up with just enough motor fuel to get back to town, but I have never run out of propane. I think having the heat and water heater separate from the motor fuel is a great idea!
Residential type refrigerators have only been installed in RVs for a few years, so I think the real durability of them in a mobile environment has yet to be proven.
Then there is the cost of the all-electric coach. Again, no thanks!
It is very obvious that a fully electric coach is not for you.
About using diesel for everything, we have a 150 gallon fuel tank. I have never been close to running out of fuel or even at the 25% mark where they say the genny pick-up is located. The genny usage and/or the Aqua-Hot system use minimal fuel.
We have an electric cook-top that has been used once in 5 yrs. I wouldn't use a propane stove either as we cook mostly outside on our electric grill and/or use the convection microwave. Mostly, we go out to eat or bring home cooked food.
I think the residential refrigerators have proven themselves as they have been in use at least 10 yrs. One thing that has become very evident, is that a propane fridge will BURN YOUR RIG DOWN! I haven't seen a recall yet on residential fridge or anything related to motorhome use regarding the electric only fridge.
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RandyP77 wrote: Would not own anything besides an all electric coach, they may not be for everyone but it seems that those people that go all electric, would never go back.
That is why they started building all electric. There was a huge market out there for all electric. Doug
dougrainer wrote: All Electric Motorhomes have a Combo 120 (or 240 if large expensive motorhome)/Diesel furnace/Water Heater.
So, "all electric" really isn't so. More like "diesel/electric". Nothing wrong with that, but I've often wondered how one could heat water, cook and run an electric furnace all at one time on 50 amps.
I can see the advantages of all-electric, but we boondock too much to make it practical. I love my propane cooktop, my propane oven (we make alot of roasts) and fully enjoy the peace of having 6 solar panels that can completely handle everything we do without ever needing to run the generator.
All-electric is definitely the new trend, but if we ever upgrade our rig I'm gonna really miss the 'ol propane system.
As far as needing 50 amp which provides 220 VAC, I can run pretty well everything on 30 amps except my dyer as it is 220 VAC. Of course when I say everything on 30 amp I mean upm to 30 amp which would be one A/C, stove, heated floors, etc. However not all electric powered coach have a 220 need and operate their dryer on 110. When plugged in a 30 amp you use your EMS (Energy Management System) This, when set to 30 amps, looks after automatic shutdown and start up of various components when the power use demand it. It really works pretty well.
actually that is easy to do if your not in Alaska in the winter
50 is really 100amps, 12,000 watts, (2) 50 amp 6000 watt 120v lines Not like the previous STD of (1) 30 amp 120v line. 3600 watt line
so the 50 amp rv has over 3 times the watts/power available then the 30amp RV
rjstractor wrote:
dougrainer wrote: All Electric Motorhomes have a Combo 120 (or 240 if large expensive motorhome)/Diesel furnace/Water Heater.
So, "all electric" really isn't so. More like "diesel/electric". Nothing wrong with that, but I've often wondered how one could heat water, cook and run an electric furnace all at one time on 50 amps.
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"One thing that has become very evident, is that a propane fridge will BURN YOUR RIG DOWN!"
WILL it now...
Let's see...
Two self-contained truck campers, 2 travel trailers, 2 Class A motorhomes, a fifth wheel, and a Class C, over the last 40 years or so...
Lived full-time in the Class As, one of the TTs, and the fifth wheel, for as little as 13 weeks (the smaller Class A) to several months (the larger Class A and one of the TTs) to a couple of years (the fifth wheel).
Never had a fire, even though the refrigerators were operating on propane while moving, and electric while parked.
NEVER had a fire...
But, "...a propane fridge will BURN YOUR RIG DOWN!"
Right!
We boondock a few times a year. We like state parks and favor traditional RV CG's in early spring and late fall for the heated pools. We use propane for cooking and batteries for light at night. We charge with a solar panel during the day allowing us to camp more or less indefinitely. We have never used our generator and sincerely hope that we'll never need to. I suspect we'll get little sympathy around here, but we think generators are simply too loud and disruptive when other people are around (which is always true in our case).
I guess that means we aren't suited for an 'all electric' coach either .
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mowermech wrote: "One thing that has become very evident, is that a propane fridge will BURN YOUR RIG DOWN!"
WILL it now...
Let's see...
Two self-contained truck campers, 2 travel trailers, 2 Class A motorhomes, a fifth wheel, and a Class C, over the last 40 years or so...
Lived full-time in the Class As, one of the TTs, and the fifth wheel, for as little as 13 weeks (the smaller Class A) to several months (the larger Class A and one of the TTs) to a couple of years (the fifth wheel).
Never had a fire, even though the refrigerators were operating on propane while moving, and electric while parked.
NEVER had a fire...
But, "...a propane fridge will BURN YOUR RIG DOWN!"
Right!
And let's hope that never does happen to you, but at the same time there are numerous examples of rigs catching fire and in many cases burning to the ground because of the fridge.... I would think that all these people thought it would never happen to them either, but once it did I am sure it changed their opinion. Sure we all take chances everyday.... But having a resd. fridge in your RV just offers you one less concern
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