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If SWM on dish (new SWM), yes. An SL3 is just the centered horn on an SL5. Three LNB's under the lens. The 110 and 119 are inside the horns on the outrigger.
You want MRV too which may require SWM anyway. Here is a link to a Trav'ler manual that may be more helpful. Your plan is complicated.
http://www.winegard.com/kbase/upload/2452242.pdf
I would go with the first schematic. Install a SWM-8 as shown with the Trav'ler. At the ODU (dish) input on the PI (power inserter) install an A/B switch to toggle between the Trav'ler and the Slimline on a tripod.
It would be similar to the Dome/Trav'ler schematic immediately below except the Dome would be the Slimline on a tripod with a SWM SL-3 (SWM on dish), without the SWM-8, and going to the A/B switch.
You need to go to the other diagram to see the MRV (DECA) boxes in the mix. They require an additional DECA PI. H24's and HR24's have DECA built in so no modules needed. H25's and HR34's are SWM only so the SWM-8 where the Trav'ler comes in is mandatory.
DECA in the mix
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You may need different PI's for the SWM-8 and SWM SL3. The SL3 is 21v but I don't know what the SWM-8 is or whether it makes any difference.
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schneid wrote:
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Tx for doing my homework - take the nap.
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Both "mikestock" and I have added second TV's. Rather than go MRV/DECA we opted to use one box and split the HDMI output with a good amplified splitter. We both were successful.
I did so as I want to just drag along one box. I have an aging HR20-100. I prefer it as it tunes and records OTA programming and somehow has a a 1TB drive on board. I'll cry when it dies.
Downside is running the HDMI cables. The fat heads require 1" holes. You must be handy and clever to pull it off without making an ugly mess of things. I am neither but did okay.
With HDMI the sets will all mirror each other. No separate programming.
I went with this:
Amazon
and these cables:
Amazon
10' to HR to HDMI splitter, 15' to first TV, 25' to second.
The cables are well insulated (fat) and shrouded with a nylon mesh.
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If you are getting the 3005 hurry, I noticed another price increase this morning
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schneid wrote:You may need different PI's for the SWM-8 and SWM SL3. The SL3 is 21v but I don't know what the SWM-8 is or whether it makes any difference.
SWM (on dish) is 21v and SWM-8 is 29v. This link says not to mix so the PI's will need to be isolated along with the dishes by the A/B switch.
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schneid wrote:schneid wrote:You may need different PI's for the SWM-8 and SWM SL3. The SL3 is 21v but I don't know what the SWM-8 is or whether it makes any difference.
SWM (on dish) is 21v and SWM-8 is 29v. This link says not to mix so the PI's will need to be isolated along with the dishes by the A/B switch.
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Mmmm . . . so the internal switch (SL3) is a different voltage.
Sounds like using a SWM8 with the rooftop & for the tripod would be easier -- that's two SWM8s, right?
But that means you need to "hang" a SWM8 off the tripod, right?
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Right. I don't think they are cheap either.
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schneid wrote:H25's and HR34's are SWM only so the SWM-8 where the Trav'ler comes in is mandatory.
I'm assuming the HR34 is the only DirecTV DVR that gives me Whole House (RV) capability, right?
If so, the Winegard Trav'ler 3005 can be used, but it sounds like for the HR34, I would have to use a 5 LNB portable. . . and both the Trav'ler and the portable would need its own SWM8, eh?
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I'm assuming the HR34 is the only DirecTV DVR that gives me Whole House (RV) capability, right?
No. All H and HR's will do it. Early models require the DECA gizmos while 24's and above have it built in.
The HR34 has five tuners so it can record five programs at once. It can share the programming with other H's and HR's AND feed compatible TV's without requiring a box at the set.
If so, the Winegard Trav'ler 3005 can be used, but it sounds like for the HR34, I would have to use a 5 LNB portable. . . and both the Trav'ler and the portable would need its own SWM8, eh?
The HR34 and H25 are SWM only and cannot use any four-wire legacy Slimline. They are built for SWM (on dish) with a one-wire feed.
The Trav'ler must go to a SWM-8 then one-wire to a splitter then one-wire to each box. I don't think you can do MRV without SWM.
I am know expert but have this stuff and have sort of clue how it all hooks together. Your goal to use a Trav'ler with a backup portable and do MRV seems doable but certainly a challenge. Lot's of balls in the air.
With 24's and above the schematic will be straight forward SWM. The Trav'ler will need a SWM-8 and the tripod slimline will need SWM (on dish) or a SWM-8. The hard part is introducing an A/B setup to isolate the two signal sources and their power supplies. If it were me, I'd get the Trav'ler up and running making sure their is accessible working room around the SWM-8, PI, and splitter. Take a breather, test it on the road, ponder it, and then tackle the introduction of a tripod backup.
Re the HR-34. They might could be a little buggy right now. Nothing big but certainly annoying.
Need another nap.
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