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DE88ROX

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My new TT has no windows in the very front (bedroom) or in the back (bathroom) The amount of windows it does have is more than enough. My only problem is I wish more than the bottom ¼ of the window would open to allow more air flow.




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DE88ROX wrote:

My only problem is I wish more than the bottom ¼ of the window would open to allow more air flow.

And that would be one of my points. And is that the water heater on the awning side?

Here's a shot of our galley. Notice wall and cabinet tones. Bright and airy.


You need sunglasses in the bathroom.


Two of the three windows in the bedroom. Someone mention cross-ventilation?


At 26 feet, the TajWeHaul is all the trailer I want to tow. Eight windows and a skylight (plus two door windows, frosted) let the outdoors in. They don't make mid-sized TTs like this anymore.

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This seems to be a bit of a silly over-generalization. There are simply more choices now than there used to be. More choices means more options for everyone to choose from.

My trailer, for example, is a 2011 and has lots of windows on both sides, as well as the back, and I've seen brand new RVs with even bigger and more windows than mine.

Nostalgia is fine, but let's be honest, trailers today are built far lighter, with far more amenities than they used to be, and far more choices for the consumer.


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subversive wrote:

This seems to be a bit of a silly over-generalization. There are simply more choices now than there used to be. More choices means more options for everyone to choose from.

My trailer, for example, is a 2011 and has lots of windows on both sides, as well as the back, and I've seen brand new RVs with even bigger and more windows than mine.

Nostalgia is fine, but let's be honest, trailers today are built far lighter, with far more amenities than they used to be, and far more choices for the consumer.


Agreed. That was my original point.

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subversive wrote:

Nostalgia is fine, ...


Yeah, don't you miss it?

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'tiredTeacher wrote:

subversive wrote:

Nostalgia is fine, ...


Yeah, don't you miss it?




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outcampinagain wrote:


I'm with Kittykath. We have a 26RLS (Jayco) plenty of windows and a good mix that slides open but also have 2 on each end (bed & LR) that can open when its rains.


Are they adjustable or have one setting = open all the way? These I believe are called awning windows and blowing rain will come in the sides. We have two on our TT, BOTH on the same side so there is no cross ventilation. We finally bought these. They're not great but do keep the rain out and let some air in. The pic is not our RV but from and add. Can you imagine having to do this just to get fresh air in the new TTs?



We also bought a Fantastic Fan and MaxxAire so we can breathe when it rains. Heartland would not replace the cheap sliders with jalousie windows even when we offered to pay to have it done before delivery.

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In fact the other day I was getting ready to order some dark fake wood blinds I thought...boy we have a lot of windows! I love it and the big back window is perfect for us (just 2 of us, not kids)
I hadn't notice the lack of windows on others...I''ll look now though


If you don't need sleeping at both ends you can find TTs with back windows. That was not the case with us. We needed a bunkhouse with beds at both ends. Had Heartland used jalousie windows that were not tinted dark, all would have been great. Or had they been willing to satisfy us and replace the two large ones before delivery - that would have been great. I'd never buy another Heartland RV unless they stop using the dark tinted windows and the cheap slider windows.


The fire escape window in the bedroom is an awning window with one setting. The other 3 are adjustable awning windows but it is only the bottom 8"(?). enough to let a little air in with the maxx fan in the rain.

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I'm fine with the amount of windows we have, but I wish I could open more of them. And that's the kind of thing you don't really even notice until you've purchased the trailer and taken it out.

One window on each side of the unit is an escape window, and they aren't supposed to be opened unless you're escaping. Then there's another window that has the awning support poles in front of it. You can only open that window if the awning is out. There are two others that are on the side of the slide out, so you can only open them if the slide is out. That's not usually a problem, but it was a few weeks ago when we got the trailer out of storage and put in the driveway for a few hours to get it ready for the new season. I opened all of the windows I could to air it out, but between the awning and slide out both being in, that left me with a whopping 2 windows I could open. And one of those is the one over the kitchen sink, which is hardly big enough to count.

I also wish that I had a real window, with window coverings, in the door. That frosted glass drives me nuts. That's something that we may actually pay to replace.

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I've noticed this too, and it's one of the things I like about having a hybrid. The tent end is mostly window. The bathroom doesn't have a window, but it does have both a skylight and a vent (separate).

I've also noticed there are some better options out there... Lazy Daze Class Cs, for instance, have lots of large windows. Many Class Bs also have lots of windows.

In terms of where things vent, that was one of the selection criteria for my trailer. I didn't want anything to vent propane exhaust fumes under the awning, so the water heater and furnace vents had to be on the other side of the trailer. The refrigerator intake is under the awning, but it vents out the roof.

When buying, one needs to look at these things on the outside too, not just the cabinets (and windows) on the inside.


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Wow! We have a really great discussion going here.
May I add another observation? Having opening windows and appliances venting away from the awning are indicative of the use of the TT. By this I mean that there are so many reasons for owning a TT. (Toy haulers are good examples.)
Penny and I have a pop up. We use that for boondocking with our canoe/fishing club. It is hauled across cow pastures and set up on river banks. The Pup is our "camper."
Our Sunline is used more as as our mobile condo. We take it to established parks (state, federal and private) with hook ups in areas we want to visit and tour. It's our "touring trailer" and I don't think I've ever called it a "camper."
That being said, when we do take the TajWeHaul, we still enjoy outdoor living, i.e. evenings around the campfire, cooking outdoors, cocktails in the loungers, satellite spotting, stargazing and all-around nature marvelling. So, to us, the more outdoor oriented a TT is, the better. But, lemme say this - on a cold, windy morning, you'll find the chef huddled around his 4-burner stove enjoying the warmth of that furnace, you betcha!

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