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BeeronIce

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Posted: 04/21/12 09:47pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Thats why i moved to a TT. Too many stories of bunk issues. Doing my front bunk was enough and the back was getting soft. I did enjoy the trailer very much but not the headaches.

http://s278.photobucket.com/albums/kk110/greensmell/Kodiak%20bunk%20door/


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Anyone else have my link to photobucket freeze up on them with the page half loaded? It seems to only work when i am logged on to photobucket.

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I would like to defend Bikendan. As a past owner of a PU and then a hybrid I know exactly what he is talking about. RV.NET has a large number of very angry posters, just take a look at discussions in the tow vehicle forums.

Dealing with condensation with tent ends, leaking problems with the tents and seals around the doors are unique to hybrids and perhaps pop ups. For someone who has never owned one of these to speak authoritatively about the issue is what causes the problems. Feeling "welcome" was not the issue. People come here to ask questions and to try to get some help. Those with experience are of great help. Others, not so much.

I drive a Tundra but when I respond to people who ask how they like theirs, others who have never owned a Tundra or have ever driven one, will chime in telling everyone everything that is wrong with the truck. That is neither helpful nor welcoming.

Chill out a bit. He was not attacking anyone but simply pointing out an issue that many here have.


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Posted: 04/23/12 09:28am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

What it comes down to is if you don't have a hybrid then don't try to give advice on items that pertain strictly to hybrids. But there are a lot of areas in a hybrid that anyone that has almost any R.V. can answer, so anyone from any site should be welcome as long as they don't try to give advice on items that only pertain to hybrids and unless they have owned a hybrid know nothing about. But this should be true for all sites.


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rustycopperballs wrote:

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to clarify, my problem is that many forum member post here, that have no idea what a hybrid is, let alone the unique technical issues they may have.
i have no problem with them providing help with things that are common with all RVs, such as converter issues, sewage issues, warranty issues, towing issues and so forth, that are posted on the Hybrid forum. i welcome their help and knowledge.

but, when there are issues that are particular to hybrids and not to any other type of RV, then i feel it's not helpful and only complicates things.

personally, i don't post on the other forums for other types of RVs. not do i even visit those other RV-type specific forum.
i've never owned a MH or 5th wheel or TH or TC, so i feel that i have nothing to offer there. those are forums for owners of that particular type of RV and aren't generic forums.

i do post on the generic sections, such as Tech Issues or Towing because those deal with issues common to multiple types of RVs.
and i have some knowledge and experiences with those issues, that might help someone.
but i would never consider even going to the Class A forum, for example, and begin offering advice to those seeking help with their Class A, because i've never owned one nor have even rode in one.


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Posted: 04/26/12 08:06pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

BeeronIce wrote:

Thats why i moved to a TT. Too many stories of bunk issues. Doing my front bunk was enough and the back was getting soft. I did enjoy the trailer very much but not the headaches.

http://s278.photobucket.com/albums/kk110/greensmell/Kodiak%20bunk%20door/


Very nice pics and results! I was recently looking for anyone who rebuilt a very large cargo door (about 47"x74"). It is very similar to your bunk end.

I'm still working on a replacement, but a rebuild is on my backup list

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Hello Dino, I sent you a private post, but decided to list it here just in case someone else is interested.

When I purchased my trailer I got it at a really good price because of this this exact same problem you are mentioning. I believe my trailer got the damage because the previous owner left both ends out & forgot about it through a heavy snow storm. I believe the snow was above the pop-out beds & when it melted it leaked through & caused the end of the wood to expand where the bracket were. This happened to both ends & the bed detached from the bracket falling to the ground. Also the outside fiberglass detached from the outside framing. I would estimate at least a foot of the wood from the bracket was the damaged & flimsy. This trailer was in tip top shape, hardly used & everything worked, even the tent popouts looked new. That is why I purchased the trailer even with the bed end problems. At first it really seemed horrible & I thought I was going to have to completely dismantle each end, replaced the filon wood that was sandwiched. I was about to go on vacation & came up with a quick fix. Infact it worked so well I decided to leave it as it is. This is what I did, I realized that the bed was sturdy, but the last foot or so was not. I took the bed entirely out & placed it in the garage. The damage seemed to be more like wood rot & flaky wood. I made sure the area was completely dry & then put lots of liquid nails in the damaged area of about 1 foot all the way across. I then placed a 2x4 all the way across & placed some weight on it to dry overnight. I then purchased a piece of wood that goes on the side of houses. I’m not even sure it is wood, but it is very sturdy & hard. It is about 8” wide & between ¼” to 3/8” thick, it measures exactly 5/16 thick, but can not remember how they sell it ¼ or 3/8. I cut the wood measured from side to side, same distance of bracket. I removed all the bad rusted out screws, which should have been longer in the first place & purchase new self tap metal screws. I placed the wood over the bracket and lined up bracket, marked it & then drilled holes through the wood. Next I screwed the screws through wood & bracket. Underneath the bracket is a steel frame that you need to go through. I forgot to mention the 8” ends of the wood should also have screws through it, it also goes through a steel frame. Before you screw it together make sure the outside is secured underneath the little outside metal frame. The wood comes already primered & is in the same color family as the bed, so it does not show that much, besides the bed cushion is over it anyways. I guess you could add extra boards making it 16” or 24”, but one 8” board seemed to do the job. It is very strong; I tested almost 700 lbs which was two kids, wife & myself. It seems to hold up well, we jumped all over it & it did not give. Maybe someone would like to try this first, instead of a complete teardown of the bed. It worked for me & I’m very happy with the results. Don’t forget to use silicon on the outside frame/fiberglass, in fact you might as well go around the entire trailer & seal it up. Hope this help, good luck. JD
I could post some pictures if anyone is interested. I also have an upgrade that I will be soon adding to the post "Mods added section" someone may want to add since it involves the bunks. Our bunks require the poles, in 2005 Aerolite Cub started making the bunks self support. Now I forgot to mention when I did the test, I forgot to place the poles underneath mine, yikes one end of the cable screws into wood... It was only being held up by 1/16th inch cable inside & probably the vinyl velcroed to bunk. This made me think if I could not collapse the bunks, why don't I just add an 1/8th coated cable to each side, with brackets to the steel frame upper & lower, making it self supporting. I did some research on the strength of the two cables & the breaking point for the total of four is almost 6000 lbs & working load should be the standard 5 time less, which is 1200 lbs. After reading what I just wrote, I will post soon some pictures of both, the bunk fix & self supporting bunk in the Modification post. Damiansnpvp

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Caddis295 wrote:

Greetings all,

I have been a member for sometime, without a TT. We took the plunge and purchased 2000 Damon Camplite TT. After reading about condensation build up, I ventured out to the camper and took a closer look at the front Pop Up Door and found that it is pretty mushy at the bottom.

So, I am resovled to fixing our trailer, but need to know if anyone has taken on a rebuild of the front fold out door.

I am trying to mentally compile a list of materials and mentally walk through the process. I could really use some insight to some of the problems others might have faced and what materials they used.

Any thoughts on what to use to remove the musty smell we have in the TT?

Any and all help is greatly appreciated!

Dino


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Posted: 05/03/12 07:40pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Unfortunately you're not the first this has happened to... hopefully the engineers will design something better in the future. We loved our HTT and would return to one in a heartbeat.

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Just want to thank everyone for the helpful insight into the repair process. I will post pictures of my build as progress take place.

Again, Thank You.


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