Engineer9860 wrote: Dang, what did he do to wear out his front end at 55K?
I've never had a Chevy go less than 150,000 before it needed anything on the front end.
It's an 05 that's used basically to pull a 5th wheel for most of those miles so I suspect this had something to do with the tie rods wearing out, otherwise I'm not sure what actually caused the premature wear, but it was odd the front shocks did not last as well. The truck gets the tires rotated and frontend greased with an oil change every 5k miles so it's not from a lack of maintenace.
I had a 92 Chevy truck that had the passenger side stearing swing arm (for a lack of a correct description) that wore out at ~80k miles so it happens.
Historically Chevy used to have the best front ends of the big 3 IMO, but it just seems that the 2001 - 2007 trucks had the bean counters influenced the components used on these suspensions.
I had a 2001 3500 dually 4wd CC DA. I put 134K on it ( about 80% towing) and never had to touch the front end, or much of anything. Only a water pump. Still had lots of life left in the brakes. Best vehicle I ever owned.
I do all of my own maintenence, and can vouch that greasing the frontend of those trucks is NOT easy. There are 2 zerks that are very hard to find and another one that is almost impossible to get to without removing the skid plate/air dam.
I seriously doubt that most lube places or even owners will grease those.
Interesting... I also remembered my dad bought one of the first Chevy 2500HD with the 6.0 gas engine and it's front shocks went bad with very low miles, but that truck especially the transmission had problems and the engine was terrible and loose power when towing.
His current truck with the Duramax is the best pulling truck by far and will out tow my truck as well, but the interior quality and the paint quality is way behind my Super Duty.
What is a Dodge Cummings? If there is such a creature, they are probably pretty rare. Now a Dodge with a "Cummins" motor is not too rare, so a bit easier to find.........
Marty
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92 Red-e-haul 12K equipment trailer
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Quote: I doubt you could find more than a handful of people who buy a new truck with the intention of putting more than 200,000 miles on it let alone 500,000 and I wouldn't pay an extra dollar for an engine that is good to a 1000,000 miles over one that is good to 500,000. I will probably be replacing my truck before it hits 60,000 miles.
What is this the Arrogant thread or how strong the PSD is Mit? Oh you may not know him being from the great north
Your post just proves a point, if you need a truck every 3 years and have money to burn Ford is #1. If you need a truck to last like most of us, you might look elsewhere. Like there are all these so called (used truck with 5 miles on them). Sure we all believed that load of cra*. I have better things to spend money on other than a new truck every 3 years. Hell my last GMC lasted 20 years. Our three 6.0's couldn't even make it a year.
Where is that elevator garage thread anyway, it must have been you.
Quote: I doubt you could find more than a handful of people who buy a new truck with the intention of putting more than 200,000 miles on it let alone 500,000 and I wouldn't pay an extra dollar for an engine that is good to a 1000,000 miles over one that is good to 500,000. I will probably be replacing my truck before it hits 60,000 miles.
What is this the Arrogant thread or how strong the PSD is Mit? Oh you may not know him being from the great north
Your post just proves a point, if you need a truck every 3 years and have money to burn Ford is #1. If you need a truck to last like most of us, you might look elsewhere. Like there are all these so called (used truck with 5 miles on them). Sure we all believed that load of cra*. I have better things to spend money on other than a new truck every 3 years. Hell my last GMC lasted 20 years. Our three 6.0's couldn't even make it a year.
Where is that elevator garage thread anyway, it must have been you.
For the most part even those who choose to drive the same truck for 20 years are not going to see allot of value in an engine that is good for more than 500,000 miles. How many miles did you put on your GM in the 20 years you owned it? Say you buy a new GMC turbo diesel crew cab 4x4 in 1993 for $28,000 - keep it for 20 years and it becomes worthless. Then in 2012 you buy a new truck for 55,000 - so you spent $83000 on your trucks over the past 19 years and you now have a new one. I spend 28000 in 1993, and $3000 per year for the next 12 years upgrading then $4000 per year for the following 7 years. So I spent $92,000. Not a big difference - on average you'll spend more on repairs if you keep your truck for 20 years.
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2003 Citation Supreme 34 RLTS
Travlingman wrote: I went through this same decision late last year, having had an '02 then '07 Duramax's. After driving and comparing all the big 3, you can see in my sig a 2012 F-350 King Ranch. Best truck I have ever owned. Just finished my first trip puling fiver across mountains from Tenn. to South Carolina and back and couldn't be happier. Truck is pulling machine, braking worked great contrary to the non Ford owners observations, electronics package on the Ford is way ahead of others, and the interior is very comfortable compared to my last truck.
After all is said, if I were you, I would go drive both on the same day and compare what you think. Take a look at all the trucks have to offer, interiors, capacities, options you want, electronics, does the seat fit your butt, etc. It is your money, so buy what you like best. Both are good trucks and will get the job done.
X3 I have a 2011 F350 dually with the new 6.7 and it is the best truck I have ever owned, by far.
You'll spend a lot more yearly over time on insurance and registration if you keep buying new trucks than if you buy one truck and let it get old. Insurance and registration go way down as the truck ages.
SoCalDesertRider wrote: You'll spend a lot more yearly over time on insurance and registration if you keep buying new trucks than if you buy one truck and let it get old. Insurance and registration go way down as the truck ages.
And in the state where I live property tax goes up immensely.
In 2002, when I bought my 2500HD new, my property taxes went up almost $400.00.
That same year the property taxes on my '77 Chevy was less than $10.00
Ricatic
Debbie and Savannah the Wonderdachsund
2009 Big Horn 3055RL
2006 Chevrolet Silverado 3500 Dually LTX with the Gold Standard LBZ Engine and Allison Transmission
2011 F350 Lariat SRW CC SB 4WD 6.7 Diesel POS Gone Bye Bye
I'd rather save $3000 up front and not have any warranty than have to pay for warranty. Then those who like warranty could purchase a waranty package that suites them.
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