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bmanning

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Posted: 04/20/12 09:39am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Thanks for the post Shogun; my 2002 Land Cruiser has no 'lie-o-meter' (lol) but I track my MPG by hand nearly every tank for just that reason-- to watch for a sudden drop in economy which would tell me that something's amiss and it's time to investigate.


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Posted: 04/20/12 10:04am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

mowermech wrote:

"lie-o-meter"??
What the heck is that?
If you are going to make up your own terminology, at least relate it to something that everybody knows!
I ASSUME you are referring to the computer indicated MPG readout. Actually, I have found mine to be fairly close in the "average" mode, and WAY out in left field in the "instant" mode (in the "instant" mode, it often indicates 99MPG for brief periods!).


OP didn't make up the terminology.
The overhead MPG readouts have been called 'lie-o-meters' since they first came out. Common term.

You ASSUMED correctly......


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"OP didn't make up the terminology.
The overhead MPG readouts have been called 'lie-o-meters' since they first came out. Common term."

OK, if you say so. I guess Billings, MT is too far out in the sticks for such terminology to make it here, I have never heard of it until today.
Anyway, for the benefit of us "hicks from the sticks", please use accurate terminology instead of cutesy terms. we'uns jus ain't as sophy-stickated as sum of you big-city folks seems t'be.


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I went on a 6700 mile trip last summer and the calculated mileage was 10.82 the lie-o-meter said I got 10.9 so that is close enough for me I still write down everything but most of the time I don't even check it.

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I use the overhead MPG meter to tell me many things. If it says 0 mpg I know that I am probably stopped. If it says 22 mpg I know I might be going down a hill. There are other valuable items of info it tells me but I think you get the idea.

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Posted: 04/20/12 03:11pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

mowermech wrote:

"lie-o-meter"??
What the heck is that?
If you are going to make up your own terminology, at least relate it to something that everybody knows!
I ASSUME you are referring to the computer indicated MPG readout. Actually, I have found mine to be fairly close in the "average" mode, and WAY out in left field in the "instant" mode (in the "instant" mode, it often indicates 99MPG for brief periods!).



If you are coasting down a hill with your foot off the accelerator, you might actually be getting more than 99 MPG, it just won't read any higher.

I find my average is also pretty close to the calculated mileage when I check it.


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To me the DIC is just a way to tell if you're going up or down.... the accuracy of the number doesn't really matter (kind of the OP's point). It's like my bathroom scale... it's old and sits on the carpet and likely is totally inaccurate. But, I can tell when I'm up or down a few pounds regardless.

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camp-n-family wrote:

It's a common known problem with the 4Runner that the calipers sieze, one of the few issues of an otherwise excellent vehicle. The design of them allows water and dirt to sit around the lower part of the piston and rust, causing them to sieze up, especially if parked for long periods. I've had 2 4Runners and replaced calipers on both for the same reason.

Are aftermarket calipers designed better, so they aren't so likely to seize?

I've replaced pads, rotors and a caliper on Ford products before (using parts from Autozone), even though I'm not very mechanically inclined. To me the amount charged sounded pretty high; I would have guessed maybe $500 with labor.


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To discern a problem I would have to leave the 'lie-o-meter' on all the time and refer to it often. I use it only rarely since I find it somewhat depressing to actually know how much fuel I'm using. (I know, it's a big truck and mileage isn't supposed to be great). Anyhoo, ignorance is bliss .


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Posted: 04/20/12 09:16pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

"Lie-o-meter," that's a good one. But it does make me wonder just how much credence I should put in what my dash display reads.

I understand that the instantaneous reading are just a snapshot of performance, but I figured that fluctuations would even out over time and the average MPG figure would be relatively accurate. Has anyone really put their "Lie-o-meter" to the test and checked the readings vs. hand calculations? Are they accurate, or would my time be better spent monitoring something really important like tire pressure?


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