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Posted: 04/20/12 11:12pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Where you pulling using a gooseneck hitch? Just asking.


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Posted: 04/21/12 05:21am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I wondering how he noticed there was a problem? Was the fiver moaning and groaning when traveling, or perhaps the hitch pin box was angled differently?
And yes....did LCI goodwill any of that repair? It couldn't have been cheap.
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Posted: 04/27/12 09:40pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

To answer a few questions that have been asked.... No Lipert has not offered anything other than confirming that they only warranty the frame for 2 years. The pinbox was angled upward and the big bubble level was rubbing the front cap. I noticed this when I stopped to get the kids some food. There was approximately 1 1/2 inches from the trailer resting entirely on the bed rails. There was interior damage to the luan board up front. The repairs were completed with my labor for $500 because I had a caring welder who wanted to help my family get back on the road and was not interested in gauging me. I filed a complaint with NHTSA who is now investigating the matter. The welder who did the repairs routinely builds horse trailers and other goose neck trailers and said he could not sleep at night putting that light weight thin walled steel tubing that had been used on my trailer on anything he built. And to the one who asked about me using a gooseneck adapter, the answer is no. My hitch is a Reese 16k fifth wheel hitch that articulates side to side and forward and aft to minimize stress on the pin box.


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Posted: 04/21/12 06:18am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

rattleNsmoke wrote:

I wondering how he noticed there was a problem? Was the fiver moaning and groaning when traveling, or perhaps the hitch pin box was angled differently?.........


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many RV manufacturers use an "off the shelf" designed frame where some design and spec their frames. I think if the information could be compiled we would see the largest number of failures occur on units built on the "off the shelf" frames and were actually overloaded by the RV manufacturer. Also it appears that the welding was not great, it was more like material failure rather then the welds. Chinese steel perhaps????

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Posted: 04/21/12 08:24am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Bad welds
Using too thin of metal for the application
General poor joint design

These 3 things combined are what I see as the primary culprits behind most RV trailer frame/chassis failures.


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conmoto wrote:

Seems as though those pics get recycled on a regular basis.

That is the scary thing. These are fresh photos of essentially the same damage over and over. That is why I say Lippert is insane. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over each time becoming surprised when the results are the same.

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Ill tell you this anyone on this forum that knows a hungry young lawyer should tip him to this because the Lawyer that does a class action against Lippert is gonna clean up...

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Sorry all just started hearing about this and this is scary what year of frames are all these failures comming from?

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83trekker wrote:

Sorry all just started hearing about this and this is scary what year of frames are all these failures comming from?

Mine is a 2009 another on here is a 2010. Google Lippert Frame Failure you can read for days.

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