Jerrybo66
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I don't care where they belong, they're great..  I remember when the fireman and dog picture was on the news. The firemen saved the dog from the fire and after everything was over the dog went to the fireman and licked his face. Stories like that need to be retold...
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BobWanderer
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I tried to put up a link to a class, but no worky.
Type in "snakebreak.com" and then click the "snake avoidance", that should bring up a class today/tommorrow and another in June.
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Judy D
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was very impressed with the class . It was $75 for the first dog and $50 for each additional dog. Was worth every dollar to us. Plus you can bring your dog back for a refresser coarse at no charge. 2people did this in our class of 12 dogs. There dogs didn't even come close to where the snake was. So they deffinatly remember. The whole class only took 1 & 1/2 hours !
I highly recomend this for any one that takes there dog out where there are snakes.
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BobWanderer
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Judy D wrote:was very impressed with the class . It was $75 for the first dog and $50 for each additional dog. Was worth every dollar to us. Plus you can bring your dog back for a refresser coarse at no charge. 2people did this in our class of 12 dogs. There dogs didn't even come close to where the snake was. So they deffinatly remember. The whole class only took 1 & 1/2 hours !
I highly recomend this for any one that takes there dog out where there are snakes.
Judy D.
Our Yellow would not go near any of the snakes, She was dragging Her feet as soon as we went thru the gate where they had the class.
They DO remember !!
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CarlT100
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I eas also not aware of the training. Thank you for the post.
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thebudman
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Jerrybo66 wrote: Most snakes get out of the way, some hold their ground but I've seen some that have a bad attitude and advance.
Thanks.
I've seen worse: there are some that go so far as to send hate mail.
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Jerrybo66
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I checked for local trainers and found one that advertised he uses "commercial shockers" not the weaker kind that can be bought in a pet store. I don't believe in nor will I subject our dogs to pain and fear training. I guess it works but maybe it's a method to make a quick buck and I believe there are other alternatives. I don't think there is anyone here that would recommend that a dog should be beat to hurt him to train him not to whiz in the house. I found a recently killed rabbit under a tree in our yard so I went to get a shovel to bury it. By the time I got back there was another freshly killed rabbit laying beside it. I knew which dog killed them, (he's the fast one) so I called him to where the rabbits were and told him ,"no rabbits, you're bad," etc. That was about two years ago and I've seen rabbits run in front of him and he doesn't give them a second look. No more dead rabbits. We don't consider this dog the smarter of our two dogs, he's just an average mutt. I realize that if this two minute lesson didn't work there isn't a single bunny in our yard that could kill the dog. Shockless training would have to be repeated enough times to be sure the dog understood and the dog's owner should be making the commands...IMO.. It would be a lot more convenient if there was a trainer who used a snake but no pain and fear tactics but if not I'll get my own snake. It could be interesting, "I can catch that rattler, here, hold my beer".. 
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BobWanderer
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I definatly would not use the guy who uses a high powered shock collar.
You don't need anything more than the normal shock collar, set up properly they just get the dogs attention. According to my unit, start at the lowest setting and slightly increase the setting until the dogs ears react. My unit has 2 buttons, a very slight zap and a longer duration zap, all I have ever used is the lower setting unless the dog is really acting up. Have not even put the collars on in a very long time, all I have to do is show them the collar and they instantly start to listen to Us.
I agree there probably are better ways to train the dog, but with the rattlers I would not want to have to do it over and over and over.
Good luck with catching a rattler and training your dog 
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My favorite shock collar video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8x8iKIGulw
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BobWanderer
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http://www.rr.com/video/2256040751
I know, its an old topic, ran across this today.
Poor pup lost some flesh from the bite.
At least there is not anything about tires.
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