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I don't have disc brakes on my trailer but I can tell this. There is no provision for ABS brakes on your trailer. For that function you would need wheel speed sensors, an ABS pump and related electronics. If you install disc brakes they will operate just as the drum brakes you have now, except you will have more stopping power. The ABS system on you TV will operate just as it does now without any changes. You have 2 separate braking systems. One for the TV, one for the trailer. Nothing else will change.

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I understand this but disk is not as mellow as drum and is more on or off with aggressive braking IMO


Hi All,
I am considering the Morryde I/S upgrade but wondering about adding the disk brakes. My Pacbrake is very effective on my Cummins so find I don't drag/heat my brakes on down hill runs. I am not impressed with my over all stopping power however. I read on this forum that the stopping power is greatly improved with the disks but I'm wondering how they interact with the ABS on the TV which is most effective with heavy steady pressure.
Any input from disk users would be appreciated.

Thanks, Bob

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I don't have disc brakes on my trailer but I can tell this. There is no provision for ABS brakes on your trailer. For that function you would need wheel speed sensors, an ABS pump and related electronics. If you install disc brakes they will operate just as the drum brakes you have now, except you will have more stopping power. The ABS system on you TV will operate just as it does now without any changes. You have 2 separate braking systems. One for the TV, one for the trailer. Nothing else will change.

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The purpose of ABS on your vehicle is to prevent loss of steering control, or a skid, which can happen if you lock up the brakes. On a trailer, there is no steering control, so that is not an issue. A skid is certainly possible on a trailer, especially on ice. But IMO not a risk worth the expense of ABS on a trailer.


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bpounds wrote:

The purpose of ABS on your vehicle is to prevent loss of steering control, or a skid, which can happen if you lock up the brakes. On a trailer, there is no steering control, so that is not an issue. A skid is certainly possible on a trailer, especially on ice. But IMO not a risk worth the expense of ABS on a trailer.


Correct. ABS is designed for =control= as priority, not stopping. Now, getting a =driver= to realize this in a panic situation is a whole other ballgame. Most people simply jam on the brakes and lock their elbows on the wheel. If you ever =do= get in a situation where you go to ABS and steer around something (especially at higher speeds on dry pavement), you'll say, "that was =really= cool!" afterwards. I know I did. :-)

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guess I don't have the quote app quite right

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I recently converted my 14,600 pound Jayco to disc brakes after having a brake lining disbond on the drum brakes. The stopping power is quite impressive and much smoother than the drum brakes. If you set the gain on your brake controller properly, I don't think you will have any conflicts between your truck ABS and trailer brakes. If you have really deep pockets, they offer an ABS disc brake setup for your trailer.
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Trailer ABS is a federal requirement in commerce use for axles 8K and above now. Can't remember the starting date for this requirement off hand though a search of FMVSS would provide that info.

No requirement now or on the horizon for RV trailers/non-commerce to have ABS.

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Trailer does not bother the ABS on the tow unit. Same as with big trucks. Back in the day when tractors were just getting ABS, our trailers did not have ABS. Now we stopped great with a trailer. But without a trailer, you were not stopping for some reason. Not sure why on those. But again same with my boat trailer it has disk brakes, but no ABS. I stop just as fast with the trailer as without it.
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