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jerem0621

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Posted: 04/26/12 08:31pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Ok...

I thought I had this figured out with my F-150.

Use hitch head tilt/ chain links to return the front fenders to within a half inch of stock height. - No problem

So tonight while trying to adjust the WD hitch the following happened (note: The TV is a V10, crew cab, long bed, dually, F350)

I dropped the coupler on the ball, and... nothing happened, The front fenders didn't budge, the rear fenders basically did very little movement, maybe 1/4 of an inch or so.

How do I adjust this WD hitch? put six links on the bars and call it done?

Do I even need a WD hitch now? My trailer weighs about 6000-6500 lbs (7700 gvwr TT) loaded for camping?

Thanks!

Jeremiah


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What is the receiver rated for on dead weight? I suspect you will need minimal WD because the receiver will not handle that much dead weight. If that is the case put some minimal tension on it and go if everything else lines up as required.


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Posted: 04/26/12 09:01pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

While 1 ton suspension are "stiff" they aren't that stiff. What is the tounge wieght of your trailer? Tounge weights seem to be all over the map. Your rig must not have much. My little 26 foot rig is close to 1k toungue weigh and makes the truck squat almost 3 inches.


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I really do not know what the Tongue weight is

When I scaled it with my F150 I did just one weigh. The trailer and the truck were all connected. The TT weighed 5500 on it's scale and the truck weighed 6040 lbs.

I am not sure how much of that was tongue weight and what was sent to the front axles?

my hitch on the F-350 is a "Super Hitch" and the ratings are

"Hitch Type" "Max trailer weight" "Max"
WD 15,000 1500
WC 7,500 750

(I know what the WD and the WC mean )

Thanks!

Jeremiah

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Quote:

I thought I had this figured out with my F-150.

Use hitch head tilt/ chain links to return the front fenders to within a half inch of stock height. - No problem

So tonight while trying to adjust the WD hitch the following happened (note: The TV is a V10, crew cab, long bed, dually, F350)

I dropped the coupler on the ball, and... nothing happened, The front fenders didn't budge, the rear fenders basically did very little movement, maybe 1/4 of an inch or so.

How do I adjust this WD hitch? put six links on the bars and call it done?

Do I even need a WD hitch now? My trailer weighs about 6000-6500 lbs (7700 gvwr TT) loaded for camping?

Thanks!

Jeremiah



Jeremiah,


What weight are you trying to redistribute and where are you trying to redistribute it to? With a one ton you could tow forever and not need to redistribute any tongue weight. Think thru this before you adjust the hitch. You probably do need sway and you most likely will need some WD only because the receiver in the truck is not stout enough for the tongue weight without WD. The delivery men and women that tow trailers from the factory to the dealers often use one tons and almost never use WD. They have a stronger than stock receiver, however. You really can't compare a half ton to a one ton and expect the hitch to not need to be adjusted A trailer with a gross of about 7700 pounds will likely have a tongue weight of 1000-1100 pounds, nothing at all for a one ton. But, you have a receiver (if stock) that cannot exceed a rated weight that would not accommodate the tongue weight. So, you do need some WD just for the receiver.


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Posted: 04/27/12 07:18am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The desired weight transfer should be similar to your old truck. I would make the TT level and use the same number of links and head angle as you were before. Verify the front does not move.


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I would do the initial homework the way I would with any of them: a trip to the scales. Three separate weighs, and see how the numbers come up.

One thing is for sure, when all is said and done, that ought to be a very sweet towing combination.

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Camper JamesB wrote:

I would leave the WD hitch at home and go camping.


I'd have to agree, even if you try and lift the 7-800lb tongue weight your only lifting it a little and what ever friction you have being applied to the WD's sway control feature will be minimal at best.

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I would leave the WD hitch at home and go camping.

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APT and gmw photos have it right. Just because you switched trucks doesn't mean that the tongue weight changed. You are still leveraging the same amount of weight off of the front axle of the truck as before (that is assuming the distance from rear axle to hitch are about the same) even though the back end doesn't squat nearly as much or at all.

I would use the same number of links under tension as you used to do before changing trucks, and just adjust the hitch head on the shank up or down as necessary to get the trailer level. Then head for the scales to verify that you are ok and how much weight you are distributing and where.
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