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Posted: 04/26/12 08:59pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I'm about to get new tires and a friend is getting me the TOYO m154 245-75-R 22.5 FOR $2200 out the door. And they will put nitrogen in them for free!! Do I even want nitrogen in my tires? if so what do I do if I need more?/LOW AIR. And some has mention beads to Balance the tire is this good or bad? Or should I just stay with air/normal balancing.


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Posted: 04/26/12 09:08pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

If it is free and they will top them up for free then that is a good deal.


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Posted: 04/26/12 09:12pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

4*phun*2 wrote:

If it is free and they will top them up for free then that is a good deal.


2x yup - adding regular air at anytime down the road will not have any impact whatsoever.


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Posted: 04/26/12 09:12pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I would certainly check the date codes on tires at that fantastic price. Hope everything works out for you.

I personally wouldn't bother with the nitrogen, but that's your choice. As far as the beads for balancing, I much prefer them to weight balancing, but again..... your choice..

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Hey, I agree with everyone above for once!
I think I'll lie down.


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Posted: 04/26/12 10:17pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

the air you breath is 78% nitro, don't know what the big deal is. you might read this report. http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/how-to/repair-questions/4302788

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Nitrogen is no biggie to me personally. You can add 'normal' air to tires filled with nitrogen.

As for beads to balance tires, I think they are great. I'm running dyna-beads (ceramic) in the tires on my motorcycle and I love them. I installed a car tire on the rear of my cruiser and used 3oz of beads to balance instead of trying to balance and add weights. Added 2oz to my front tire. I'm not sure the amount you would need for a 22.5 but would figure at least 6oz. I've read a lot of 22.5/24.5 people using bb's as weights, and other in any size tire using the plastic pellets that you would get from walmart for those plastic pellet pistols.


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Hey thanks for the link..it was nice to read the advantage of filling Nitrogen over noram air.

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Posted: 04/27/12 06:26am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

old guy wrote:

the air you breath is 78% nitro, don't know what the big deal is. you might read this report. http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/how-to/repair-questions/4302788


Good theory except the air you get from a repair shop or home compressor typically has a a large percentage of water! It's this moisture that causes larger than expected pressure swings as the ambient temperature changes.

MH tires vary up to 10 PSI for every 30 degrees of ambient temperature change. Some people goes as far as quoting the Ideal Gas Law as 'proof' that such large swings are impossible. They forget that compressor air is anything but ideal.

If you want to have consistent MH tire pressure across varying temperature ranges, then you have two choices:

1. Fill with a Nitrogen compressor. All of these compressors seem to have moisture filters so you get the perceived benefit of 95% nitrogen.

2. Fill with a commercial air compressor that has a moisture filter. Anyone who paints cars know all about these filters since moisture is bad for paint .

Option 1 and 2 will perform about the same in anything but a race tire where fractional PSI changes matter. Using a standard air compressor without a moisture filter (like almost everyone does) basically sucks.

Many people try to do a good job of maintaining their tires. Most don't know that moist compressor air makes their job so much harder. I have these moisture filters installed on all my tire compressors. As such, I actually get air that is 78% nitrogen. And yes, it really works.


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Posted: 04/27/12 06:31am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Personally, I see no advantage, or disadvantage to nitrogen. If it's free, why not? As to balancing beads, I have used them on several sets of tires and have had nothing but good results. They will keep your tires continuously balanced as the tread wears down or if you pick up some mud during your travels. Just make sure that they use RV specific balancing beads, which means that the beads are large enough so that they will not interfere with normal valve cores or any tire pressure monitoring system TPMS.

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