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LTCLarry

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Posted: 04/28/12 06:08pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

What I generally like about Ron's answers is thet he doesn't just give you a fish....he teaches you how to fish.....much better to know the hows and whys than to be told "yes, you can tow that trailer". Especially by someone who doesn'y have a clue whether you can or not... much less whether you should.

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PoppynDinks wrote:

Were looking at a 2012 KZ Spree 323CSS. UVW 6413, GVWR 7900 Hitch weight 894 Length 32'4". My truck is a 2003 F150 Screw 4x4 with a 5.4 and 3.73 rear end, GCWR 13500. Is this to much trailer for my truck?


This is one of those "if you have to ask" questions.

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Thanks for all the input, yeah I guess I already knew the answer but wanted to ask. Maybe if I buy the trailer for the DW she'll let me get a new truck.


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LTCLarry wrote:

What I generally like about Ron's answers is thet he doesn't just give you a fish....he teaches you how to fish.....much better to know the hows and whys than to be told "yes, you can tow that trailer". Especially by someone who doesn'y have a clue whether you can or not... much less whether you should.


Or on the other end where someone will jump in and say "too much trailer" or "not enough truck", and they havn't even put a pencil to the numbers, let alone towed anything with a 1/2 ton truck. You can always count on Ron and also John Barca for solid, straight ahead information.


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LTCLarry wrote:

OMG !!! Consensus and no one said "If you can hook up and get it to mve you are good to go" what a relief !


Well let me say this. "If you can hook up and get it to move, you are good to go."


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PoppynDinks wrote:

Thanks for all the input, yeah I guess I already knew the answer but wanted to ask. Maybe if I buy the trailer for the DW she'll let me get a new truck.


How big is that "maybe"? Perhaps it needs to be "No new truck for me, no new trailer for you."

As someone who loves towing with his F-150, I wouldn't tow that trailer with my F-150. No way. Some might, but my wife and daughter won't be riding with them.


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Getting moving is only half the point. Stopping is very important especially in emergency situations. What about the tail wagging the dog??? Need a Hensley with that.

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Ron Gratz wrote:

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Based on the TV's ratings and the above assumptions we can calculate maximum allowable trailer weights ranging from 6550# to 7700#. If you want an accurate value for how much trailer can be towed without exceeding the TV's ratings, we need to know the following:

1) GCWR (you've told us it is 13,500#)
2) The allowable maximum weight of cargo (from TIRE AND LOADING INFORMATION placard on driver's door)
3) Receiver's tongue weight (weight distributing) rating
4) Weight of TV as loaded for camping, including about 80# for WDH.

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I know this is an RV forum but there is ONE more item that needs to be considered when trying to determine if the trailer is suitable to be towed by a certain tow vehicle. That is the frontal area of the trailer or vehicle to be towed.

Example: A tow rating of 7000lbs may be fine for a boat or flatbed trailer but possibly not for a travel trailer. The frontal area will greatly affect the ability of any tow vehicle to get the job done.

As far as I know, all manufacturers place a limit on the frontal area for trailers in their tow specifications.
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BarneyS wrote:

Ron Gratz wrote:

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Based on the TV's ratings and the above assumptions we can calculate maximum allowable trailer weights ranging from 6550# to 7700#. If you want an accurate value for how much trailer can be towed without exceeding the TV's ratings, we need to know the following:

1) GCWR (you've told us it is 13,500#)
2) The allowable maximum weight of cargo (from TIRE AND LOADING INFORMATION placard on driver's door)
3) Receiver's tongue weight (weight distributing) rating
4) Weight of TV as loaded for camping, including about 80# for WDH.

Ron

I know this is an RV forum but there is ONE more item that needs to be considered when trying to determine if the trailer is suitable to be towed by a certain tow vehicle. That is the frontal area of the trailer or vehicle to be towed.

Example: A tow rating of 7000lbs may be fine for a boat or flatbed trailer but possibly not for a travel trailer. The frontal area will greatly affect the ability of any tow vehicle to get the job done.

As far as I know, all manufacturers place a limit on the frontal area for trailers in their tow specifications.
Barney


Ford doesn't put a limit on it, at least from what I read in the 2005 booklet on weight limits, etc. However, Ford did recommend a max frontal area. Unfortunately, almost all TT's I was looking at exceeded that recommended frontal area.

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You are pushing the capacity of the half ton.

Read some old my past post. I tried to get my F-150 to comfortably tow my 7700 gvwr trailer. Finally with a lot of help from JBarca and others I got my F150 to feel pretty stable with a 32 ft travel trailer with Reese Dual-Cam sway control.

Then I weighed my rig. I found that even though I was under the tow rating I was over my gvwr with me and my family in the truck. Plus my Kids had really outgrown the F150.

Now we have a crew cab dually.

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