thanks everyone for the comments.
think I will looked for used and see what I come up with.
rehoppe....thanks for the links. can you find me something closer. I am on the CA/OR border.
I also found a 23 foot 2008 fleetwood on ebay located in CA and am bidding on it.
It has a Chevy 6.0 L vortec.
Owner claims 14 to 19 mpg.... can this be true?
I am going to start a separate forum subject discussing this chevy engine. Sea level, on the flat, with a tailwind, and two people pushing? Maybe.
My Hemi only gets 18-20mpg up here, in a PU and empty. Of course it also has 390HP on demand. Fun to step into it however. My guess, is Not.
Steve,,, I don't go to CL in your area. Just wanted you to see what's available out here. A plane ticket isn't terribly expensive. I just wanted you to be aware of other parts of the world have to offer. Sometimes it's difficult to find the 'cherry' to pick.
Good luck in your search.
See you on the road.
2011 Dodge 1500 C'boy Caddy
2000 Jayco C 28' Ford chassis w V-10 E450
Doghouse 36' or so Trophy Classic TT
We have a 2000 Jamboree 23b but it has a rear kitchen with a couch and dinette. We love it but could only find this lay out in the older class C. We use ours often for day trips and shopping in Medford. A slide out just will not work for us. If you find one that small with a slideout be sure to check when its in if you can lean the drivers seat or passengers seat back enough for comfort. We found a few we ended up leaning forward while driving. No comfort there..
We slide our drivers seats full back and recline them. We use them for our recliners when parked. We use the overhead bunk for storage and we do not mind making the couch or dinette to a bed. One trick we have used for many years is to use a fleece blanket on what ever bed as a bottom sheet. You will not need to tuck it in as it will stay put. Then we use a light weight 0 degree backpacking full size sleeping bag unzipped as a comforter whitch we just throw out on the bed. Get cold zip it up. When we get up we just stuff them in a laundry bag. No folding or rolling. Just grab a corner and stuff then we toss it in the over head bunk. Making and taking the bed apart takes 2 min..
We love our small motorhome and in the summer its almost a daily driver.. This part of the world lets us park some thing that size most any were even in down town..
We spent most of our money traveling... Just wasted the rest..
Had a 23 footer with no rear bedroom/bed. Hated sleeping in the overhead or on dinette/bed after a while. Little storage room, paper bags and boxes in shower and underfoot using up little living space, constant trying to find stuff.
A 27 footer with a rear queen size bed is much better for sleeping and letting partner sleep while you get up, much more storage room, better with kids. Parking a 27 footer is not much more problem than parking a 23 footer in malls and restaurant parking.
We bought our "C" brand new in Jan 2004 - it was priced the same as "used" units elsewhere. It's a plain-jane 28' model with no slides. We are still crazy-in-love with it - it has served us perfectly for 45,000 miles. When the new, better mileage units came out - we decided we could buy a LOT of gas with the additional $30-40 thousand dollars it would take to "upgrade" - plus we'd lose a lot of storage and Hubby would be bumping his head all the time.
We LIKE the no-slide feature - there's no problems with leaks, of course, and we don't have to worry about being particularly level. We've squeezed into some small and rugged camping spaces that took us places where a "finer" coach could not have fit.
hi, we bought 2 new TT from a dealer lot, one prowler, and one king-of-road. first one was a tad too small, the second ended up wayy! too big, heavy, hassle to pull and set up. lost a bunch of $$ on both. the best times and trips all have been with older, smaller, simpler, lighter coaches. MH/C+B units.(other than the show-off factor of pulling into campground with new an spiffy rig, that wears off first time a tree scratches the side) generally the best buys around are an upscale model a few years old, that has been little used.(there are many repo/trade/distress sale coaches right now) the solid oak and delux window dressing over the top foof an poof (that was really popular mid to late 90's)over loaded and overstuffed. most are selling for a small fraction of what new retail was. all the extra frill's an gadgets add weight, weight that you have to pay to haul around. -forever- look thru a few, without a salesman rushing/bugging you. find the ones that feel functional, well built, lay-out that fits your needs, some storage, solid drive-train, smaller/lighter, not bargain basement, nor excessive xtras. that will make a coach that you will enjoy and want to keep. sit in it a wile, drive around the lot/block, spend a lil time to see what feels right for you. ignore the buzz an excitement of new/flashy. a medium size class C, decent quality, and later add a small towd car to buzz around on longer trips. that works out really well for most folks.
again thanks for all the comments.
I notice the prices on the 24 foot to 31 feet are not that much difference.
I found a used 26 foot Born Free and 26 foot Lazy Daze .. both used and close to me.
Lazy Daze has a real good support yahoo group.
Also a 19 footer Class C.
We looked at several Lazy Daze too. When you look at one. Look at the roof.. If the roof edges wrap over and is then hooked to the side its a good chance the wood frame is ok.. However if it has the roof seam on the roof with a trim over it odds are its leaked and you will have a lot of rotten wood in the frame.. We found wood rot in the front bunk area of the 3 we looked at. Really nice and did think about rebuilding the front bunk area on one. But to much money and then lots of work and cost..
We did find a Fleetwood we really liked and went with the Jamboree with the steel frame vacu-seal panel construction because we fround a floor plan/engine we liked.
Snowdance;; What years of Fleetwood have that construction? That's Good info to know.
Not sure what year but all the 99 up Fleetwoods we looked at were built that way. Also some of the other companys started it before fleetwood. Often a search for the construction types for different companys will help you find out.. I went right to Fleetwood site and they have manuals and such you can download and read. The nice thing about the panel construction is that each side, roof and rear are one piece with a metal frame, structural foam and what ever inside cover.. Once you find a few and look at them you can tell the difference at a glance
We have some very tall friends so wanted to go with ducted AC to get rid of the AC hanging down inside. Its most common in that type of construction.
Lazy Daze as far as I know is still using wood. Not a bad thing if the owner keeps the calking done but most we saw the owner just thought it was the best and did nothing..