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qtla9111

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Posted: 05/03/12 07:49pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I'm sure we could pick any statistic to pieces. That wasn't the point of the post. Thanks for sharing.


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You/re welcome, but I didn't comment on your post. My comment was about the article to which you linked.

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I think the point you made about time spent is the key. It is more useful to post stats of Americans killed in Mexico against those killed in other foreign countries. Even that, however is not a good comparison as Mexico is special case. 2 points on that:

Many visitors to Mexico are Mexican-American immigrants and far more likely to be involved with the wrong sort of people there, or their families are. So you really have to eliminate most Hispanic victims from the stats as well.

There are far more day & weekend trips into Mexico than is the case with other countries, even Canada. These trips are into the far more dangerous border areas.

Stats are tricky things

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"Many visitors to Mexico are Mexican-American immigrants and far more likely to be involved with the wrong sort of people there, or their families are. So you really have to eliminate most Hispanic victims from the stats as well."

How can that statement be verified? Where did you get that information? Why are you stereotyping Mexican Americans? Why would anyone think that the families of Mexican Americans are involved in drugs? I am amazed that no one else noticed this statement. There are many on this site that jump at anyone who makes a derogatory statement about Mexico the country but where are these people when someone makes a statement such as this about Mexicans? There is not one word of truth or fact in that statement. Mexican Americans ( Paisanos) are mostly middle class Americans who return to visit their families in friends in Mexico. They are more like typical suburbanites who have found the American dream. They drive nice SUV,s and bring all kinds of goods to help their families. To assume they or their families are involved with drugs is ludicrous. And to make that unverified statement in a thread about stasitics just boggles the mind!!!!! I will be waiting to read the links that will verify your statement.

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Snow River TC wrote:


Many visitors to Mexico are Mexican-American immigrants and far more likely to be involved with the wrong sort of people there, or their families are. So you really have to eliminate most Hispanic victims from the stats as well.



What a ridiculous, outrageous statement! You should hang your head in shame!

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qtla9111 wrote:

No matter how you spin it, there are nationalists everywhere, even here in Mexico some people believe their country is the cat's meow.

Here is a new study released by Stanford and I am sure some will say those at Stanford have their heads somewhere else.

Are Americans safer in Mexico than at home?

As an rver, I hope never have to choose boundaries for my travels. Can't wait to travel Central and South America, Australia, Africa and Asia.

Beats getting up every morning, pouring coffee as I look out the kitchen window pondering about the rest of this great planet. I guess someday we will say, "why travel to the moon when there is plenty to see on our great planet".


Great article!

Yes, stats can be manipulated. (Part of my job in my younger days) But still a very good article.

There is more than 1 side to every story.

& What country provides the bulk of consumers for the drug trade?

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moisheh wrote:

"Many visitors to Mexico are Mexican-American immigrants and far more likely to be involved with the wrong sort of people there, or their families are. So you really have to eliminate most Hispanic victims from the stats as well."

How can that statement be verified? Where did you get that information? Why are you stereotyping Mexican Americans? Why would anyone think that the families of Mexican Americans are involved in drugs? I am amazed that no one else noticed this statement. There are many on this site that jump at anyone who makes a derogatory statement about Mexico the country but where are these people when someone makes a statement such as this about Mexicans? There is not one word of truth or fact in that statement. Mexican Americans ( Paisanos) are mostly middle class Americans who return to visit their families in friends in Mexico. They are more like typical suburbanites who have found the American dream. They drive nice SUV,s and bring all kinds of goods to help their families. To assume they or their families are involved with drugs is ludicrous. And to make that unverified statement in a thread about stasitics just boggles the mind!!!!! I will be waiting to read the links that will verify your statement.

Moisheh



Who is moving the product north, and who is moving the product NOB ???

one big Mexican network ... it will never end until they take the $$$$ out of it.. yes a Mexican network . very simple

What do you want to call them ??


In the noreste this Morning Canadians arrested for drugs.. HMMM

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I am not stereotyping Moisheh (or Mexnut), just stating a fact that there are thousands of Mexican Americans that cross the border regularly. In the case of border areas where the big problem is, far more than Gringos. It is logical that some are involved. Not to imply that all are, of course. Many visit family who may have members that are involved, making them a target. I believe this is what happened in the case of a BC couple murdered in Acapulco earlier this year.

The case in point of this thread illustrates that not all involved in the drug trade are Mexican, of course. It also illustrates that you have to have Mexican contacts to work in the trade successfully and they had better be the right ones. Otherwise you end up in body bag.

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