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Hey fellas/ladies. Getting some final things done on the unit for the upcoming camping season, this year we purchased a new 2012 dually which in the end required us to put a 6" lift on the camper. The dealer didnt quite meet my expectations with the quality of the welding and lack of supporting members to accept the newly acquired 2"x6"x1/4" tubing. So i will be doing some frame stregthening myself, also installing a custom made heavy duty reciever to pull our 19' walleye boat. I am sure installing the reciever hitch i made will do nothing but stregthen the frame more so. I already have my game plan but always like to see new ideas. What have you guys done to beef up these flimsy 5ver frames? Especially those of you with a lift. I guess one thing to watch for is to not start adding 100's of lbs in extra material but it being a welder its sure hard not to! Id say after iam done installing my reciever hitch and gussets/cross braces to the lifted area their might be an extra 300lbs of material.

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I just bought a rig with a strong frame to begin with.


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a vast majority of these frames are all made by the same company being lippert, i know arctic fox makes their own, thanks for your useless post.

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pressure_welder wrote:

a vast majority of these frames are all made by the same company being lippert, i know arctic fox makes their own, thanks for your useless post.


Well said.


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I also bought a little bit lighter fifth-wheel and had a hitch welded onto it. The welder strengthened it about four feet forward from the rear and than put some brackets on it welded to the top and the sides of the I-beams. He then welded the crossmember to the brackets, and put a bunch of little supports all over. Then he welded on the receiver. Overall, he spent about four hours welding on the support and hitch. Haven't tried towing yet, but will here in a while. I believe that a majority of the frames on the lighter fifth-wheels are pretty slim to save weight. Hope yours works well.


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I really dought that you can order a different frame for your or any other camper, unless it is custom made. When campers roll of the production line they might have different frames due to size and weight, nothing less. So welding and strengthening the frame, ( Thus voiding the factory warranty) is a personal decision we have to make. Probably no two units are modified the same way unless they are done by the same shop.
Last time out camping I saw a trailer that had been modified two times, as the owner switcher tow vehicles, It really was tall off the ground, but towed perfect, stated the owner.


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The root problem is that newer pick-up trucks are too high in the bed sides. There should be hauler versions for people wanting to hitch up a fiver.

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I welded gussets and one cross brace in before welding my hitch in. Beefed it up a lot. I only haul a drift boat with it and don't plan on exceeding 1000lbs but believe it could haul more than twice that.


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Hey, Braden
Looking forward to pics , tow handling report. in your previous posts and our private messages it is clear you have a good handle on the stresses and how to deal with them. I'd hire you to work on mine if it needed it.
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This is what i got back from the dealer after the lift, and who knows i could drive a million miles and nothing could ever happen. As you can see the welds are absolutely flawless..... not. Ill have a few hours of work ahead of me i am thinking! ill post pictures when i am done.
















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