nm1oqrz wrote: Hello. I have a 2005 Chevy 2500HD, 6.0gas 4.10 ratio. I carry a Lance
2008 1055, which is probably around 4K. I call my truck the gutless wonder. IMHO it is under-powered. Slightest grade and it downshifts.
I also have a 1989 GMC dually 3500, 454 gas,4.10 ratio and that truck could care less that the camper is on it.
I think the Chevy 6.0 is a marginal engine for campers. JMHO
Go with the 4.10
Happy camping nm1oqrz
The new Chevy's have a 6 speed transmission, the 05's had a 5 speed. Maximum torque is now around 2,000 rpm. I don't believe the new configuration will be gutless at all. But we'll see......
BELIEVE IT!!! mine is gutless as well and will downshift if i even think i might be going up a grade.this is a 2011 6 speed and the camper is relatively light.
rabidcow wrote: We have a 2011 GMC 3500HD 4x4 6.0 crew cab long box and a Northern lite 9.6 camper. Northern lite does give accurate weights. Our camper is just a hair under 2500 lbs dry but that does not include the batteries or propane. We have 3.73 gears and find it ok for power but if you are going to tow as well, probably the 4.10 rear end would be better.
One thing you should consider is that you will probably be overweight with that rig. I weighed our truck without the camper but with a rubber bed mat (125 lbs), torquelift tie downs, a full tank of gas, and my wife and I and it was 7500 lbs. The GVWR is 11,000. With the camper on and camping gear, but no water, it is about 10,500 which i'm happy with but if your camper is going to be heavier and you are going to tow you WILL be over your GVWR. You may want to consider a dually.
That is some important info...my documentation shows the Curb Weight to be 6,374 lbs, add 216 lbs for gas, 125 lbs for bed mat, we will weight 260 lbs, how much does the Torklift gear weigh? I am coming up with around 7,000 lbs. Which puts me at the 4,000 lbs payload I am looking for.
The GCWR of this truck is 20,500 lbs with the 4.10 gears, that leaves room for towing a 9,500 lb trailer (ball hitch) with the truck loaded to it's max 11,000 GVWR.
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nm1oqrz wrote: Hello. I have a 2005 Chevy 2500HD, 6.0gas 4.10 ratio. I carry a Lance
2008 1055, which is probably around 4K. I call my truck the gutless wonder. IMHO it is under-powered. Slightest grade and it downshifts.
I also have a 1989 GMC dually 3500, 454 gas,4.10 ratio and that truck could care less that the camper is on it.
I think the Chevy 6.0 is a marginal engine for campers. JMHO
Go with the 4.10
Happy camping nm1oqrz
The new Chevy's have a 6 speed transmission, the 05's had a 5 speed. Maximum torque is now around 2,000 rpm. I don't believe the new configuration will be gutless at all. But we'll see......
BELIEVE IT!!! mine is gutless as well and will downshift if i even think i might be going up a grade.this is a 2011 6 speed and the camper is relatively light.
OK then.....your post is written like we are comparing apples to apples....I know that is not the case for sure as the 2012's have been tuned to produce their max torque at around 2,000 rpm much lower then before (yours).
What diff gears does your truck have, 3.73's is my guess....
Sis what transmissions are supposed to do, just wait until the 8 speed transmissions come to the HD trucks....
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We have a 2011 GMC 3500HD 4x4 6.0 crew cab long box and a Northern lite 9.6 camper. Northern lite does give accurate weights. Our camper is just a hair under 2500 lbs dry but that does not include the batteries or propane. We have 3.73 gears and find it ok for power but if you are going to tow as well, probably the 4.10 rear end would be better.
One thing you should consider is that you will probably be overweight with that rig. I weighed our truck without the camper but with a rubber bed mat (125 lbs), torquelift tie downs, a full tank of gas, and my wife and I and it was 7500 lbs. The GVWR is 11,000. With the camper on and camping gear, but no water, it is about 10,500 which i'm happy with but if your camper is going to be heavier and you are going to tow you WILL be over your GVWR. You may want to consider a dually.
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That is some important info...my documentation shows the Curb Weight to be 6,374 lbs, add 216 lbs for gas, 125 lbs for bed mat, we will weight 260 lbs, how much does the Torklift gear weigh? I am coming up with around 7,000 lbs. Which puts me at the 4,000 lbs payload I am looking for.
The GCWR of this truck is 20,500 lbs with the 4.10 gears, that leaves room for towing a 9,500 lb trailer (ball hitch) with the truck loaded to it's max 11,000 GVWR.
Still no need for a dually.....
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Our truck showed it should be approx 6695 lbs and the 2012 shows 6733 lbs, for the crew cab long box 4x4 6.0 per this link http://www.chevrolet.com/silverado-3500hd-pickup-truck/features-specs/?styleIds=335301^335303^332525^335300^335302^332526&tab=tabHighlights
I'm not sure how they come up with the curb weight but if your truck is the same as ours except a 2012, you should expect it to weight 7500 before loading the camper. The Torquelifts weigh a bit less than 100 lbs, I would guess. I was also hoping for a lower weight but the truth comes out at the scale...
Manufacturer printed curb weights are seldom accurate with the rear world. Often they are based on a truck with no factory or dealer installed options. Certainly they are based on a truck with no owner installed aftermarket equipment. All that stuff adds weight to the truck.
You should go out on the dealer lot and read some of the yellow payload weight stickers on the door jambs of trucks that are equipped similar to what you intend to buy. I bet you find the yellow sticker payload number to be noticeably less than the manufacturer brochure advertised payload number.
The yellow sticker payload number is based on what the truck comes with from the factory for that particular truck, as shipped. Anything dealer installed or owner installed will not be reflected in the yellow sticker.
I have an older 6.0l 4.1 and wish I had a diesel. I tow an 8500lbs fully loaded camper and it feels under powered escpecially on rolling hills. Engine going up short steep hills w/ out tow haul = 35 to 4000 rpm If you have the cash do yourself and knuckles a favor get the diesel. My neighbor has the 6.0 duramax duelly double cab= wicked awesome. JMHO
Get the 4:10, once you upgrade your tire size to max out your payload, you will have a final ratio similar to 3:73 with stock tires.
If your weight is 3700 wet, you are fine, I run a similar setup and regularly tow a 4place ATV trailer. If your weight is 3700 dry, you better get a dually.
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