librty02
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OK as my sig says I have a 2011 Eco f-150 crew cab max tow and my payload is at 1485 on the sticker. Im looking to purchase a 2012 keystone bullet 281BHS with these specs.
Shipping Weight 5091
Carrying Capacity 2424
Hitch 515
Length 31' 8
Width 8'
Height 10' 3
Fresh Water 41
Waste Water 30
Gray Water 30
I will never tow with water tanks full and ready to camp estimate 1000 lbs of cargo. With my pup now with everything we need I usually have 500lb in the truck bed and 500lb in the trailer. With the new trailer there wont be anything in the truck bed but maybe a chair or 2. Traveling in the truck me, the wifey and my daughter. Maybe the fam pup time to time. So trailer loaded will be at most 6300 lbs. Leaving hitch weight around 820 lbs. It seems Ill be within my limits.
I plan on getting the equalizer WDH set up too. Any comments you guys have are welcome. I have towed our Niagara which total loaded is 4000lbs with No WDH just a friction sway bar and have never had any issues even on trips of 1500 miles so I figure 2000 more lbs with a WDH shouldnt be an issue for me. PLease comment 
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fla-gypsy
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That is an 7500 lb GVWR trailer. I know you said it would be rolling at 6300# but I don't think so. You could be looking at 900-1000# of tongue weight when all is said and done. You will be limited by the payload. Choose carefully and it may be possible.
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librty02
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I must say that ecoboost with my 4000 lb trailer and 500 lbs in the truck bed goes up the mountains here at 55 mph at 1800-2000 RPM with my foot hardly even on the gas I dont know how another 1500 pounds will put me under 40?????? And that 55mph is a straight 3.5 mile stretch at a 8% grade at least going up through the laurel mountains hmmmm
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afob3
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Eco and max tow you should be good up to 10000lbs plus. The limit is going to be your payload before you ever get to that max towing number. If you can stay under payload you should be fine.
Skipinchar regularly moves more than what you suggest but I'm pretty sure he has a higher payload with the extracab instead of crewcab.
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2Macs
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I see you are from Western Pa. With the setup you are considering, the hills and mountains where you live will give you a lot of problems going up them. With a loaded TT, it will pull you down to a maximum effort 40 mph or less.
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Dr. Blake
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I pull my Arctic Fox 25s with no problems using the vehicle in my signature. I like you pack light because we just don’t need a lot of stuff; we only got the trailer for the flexibility the bathroom added with a 16 month old. We came from a tent trailer too, I loved that thing. My trailer dry is 5,260 pounds and ready to travel its right around 6,700 pounds including water. The GVWR of the trailer is 8,000 pounds but we have never been close to that. I like 13% on the hitch and use my sherline scale to make sure I am at that weight. My hitch weight is about 850 pounds at a little over 13%. The thing you need to remember is the actual weight acting on the truck is less then the 13% because the weight is distributed with your hitch. At the scales I see about 20-25% if the hitch weight transferred back to the trailer, this does not reduce the tongue weight, rather the force of the tongue weight acting on your tow vehicle. I pack my truck reasonable light and I am well within the specs for my truck.
I pull through Alberta, BC and Washington State Rockies and I have never had any issues with power or stability. I have the Reese Dual Cam system and it keeps everything inline and stopping is really good with the P2. I can pull the mountains at the same speed everyone else is going; my truck is working but not to the point that it makes me uncomfortable and no where near redline. Gauges all remain normal and the ride is comfortable.
At some point I will get a bigger truck when our family gets bigger and the kids want to take bikes and stuff. I am close to the GVWR of my truck; I only have 300 pounds of payload left after we are loaded. I will use what I have until then and nobody can weight police me because I am within spec.
I’ve heard great things about the ecoboost, if the numbers work for you and your comfortable I would get the trailer, payload will be your limiting factor as it is mine. Just know that if your family gets bigger or requirements change you may need a bigger truck down the road.
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f150camper
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2Macs wrote:I see you are from Western Pa. With the setup you are considering, the hills and mountains where you live will give you a lot of problems going up them. With a loaded TT, it will pull you down to a maximum effort 40 mph or less.
I don't think so. If anything, it's not his engine that will limit him, but the payload. Even that sounds fine though.
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Magblue10
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I think you will be fine but I am not of the techinal school either. People will get mad at me but I still have no Idea how the ultimate figures come out even after looking at some of the fine work people have done on here. I pull a trailer that weighs 4650 dry so I add 1000 and thats 5650 or even to 6000 with the 5.4 2010 screw 4x4 with 3.55 rear end. I have no idea what the tongue weight is or how to figure that out. I know when I got it had propane in the tanks and about a 1/4 full of fresh water I hooked it up to the truck and off I went. I had the dog in the bed with a cap, my brother in law and some other crap, not saying my brother in law is crap. It hardly squated and handled great. After reading a lot of these post I ordered a WDH from curt to be safe as Im sure I will have more wieght than when I picked it up. I cant believe that an eco would have a hard time with what you are talking about. And there is no way that it will only go 40mph up the mountains. good luck bro
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MitchF150
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Yep, payload will by what might get you, but even if you bump up to it, or even go a 'smidgen' over, it's not going to be the end of the world..
I think you might actually find that can load up some fresh water too!
Anyway, don't over think it and yes, you do need to be aware of your weights, but you should be okay for the most part and no, you won't necessarly be reduced to 40 mph going up the grades IMO... 
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Ron Gratz
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librty02 wrote:---With the new trailer there wont be anything in the truck bed but maybe a chair or 2. Traveling in the truck me, the wifey and my daughter. Maybe the fam pup time to time. So trailer loaded will be at most 6300 lbs. Leaving hitch weight around 820 lbs. It seems Ill be within my limits.
I plan on getting the equalizer WDH set up too. You seem to have done your homework quite well. I see no reason to dispute your estimates, and certainly see no reason to believe your tongue weight will be 900-1000#.
When using a weight distribution hitch, an 820# tongue weight would result in a trailer-induced vertical load of about 615#. Assuming the passengers, cargo, and WDH weigh 600#, the load carried by the TV would be 1215# versus its payload capacity of 1485#.
IMO, the new trailer would be a good match.
Ron
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