I have heard that Keystone will void warranty if they know your live in 5th wheel full time, any one out there that this has happened to. Also is there any one who has had problems with keystone getting any warranty issue problems
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If I could retire today...and had the money --- It would be a Big Sky edition Montana for us!
There's nothing wrong with the Cedar Creek. In my opinion...they're both very nice 5th wheels.
It's funny the salesman pulled a punch like that. I had a salesman tell me when I was looking at the Outback v. the WildCat... Oh, you don't want the wood truss that the Forest River has...you'd be better of with the Galvanized Steel trusses that Keystone uses.
They just love to plant an idea in your head.
I'm sure you'll find weaknesses to exploit in ANY make or model if you go looking for it.
I would be more concerned with the running gear, layout, creature comforts... The high end units have lots of cool devices... Automatic Hydraulic levelers, Generator Option, Zone A/C control, double sized refrigerators, Island Kitchens, Larger showers, sinks, Slideouts w/ wireless remotes, self storing sewer hoses, receiver hitches, leather sofa/chairs, Satellite prep, cushioned pinbox, full body paint, washer/dryer...
When the dust settles...it's what you FEEL is a good fit. Afterall...it's going to be your HOME!
First Montana's are the #1 selling 5er for many years. Must be a reason. That said there are units desginated as "full time". Note however most full time units are more expensive than the units you are looking at and also weigh more.
2011 Arctic Fox 29-5T 5th Wheel
2011 Silverado HD 3500 6.6L Duramax Diesel Crew Cab
Short Bed 4X4 SRW LT
50gal Transfer Flow Aux. Tank
16K Valley Hitch w/bed saver
I have looked at both and my personal preference is Montana. That said I feel both are good units with pros and cons. Montana 3402 has two sinks in master area-my wife likes that. Cedar creek offers a two year warranty for a small amount of money $200 last time I looked. Good luck-Happy hunting!
They all look nice, but of the ones you mentioned, the only one actually rated full time is the Redwood, if I can afford it, that is the one I would buy! If you look at the fit and finish, Redwood is the best, and according to the Redwood forum, a lot of the owners upgraded from Montana's. But they do cost more! Redwood has the 2+5 full time warranty. Unless they have changed their warranty in the last few months, the others don't, but then they are rated as snowbird, not for full time.
Their frame is also built by Lippert,as are the others you mentioned, but theirs is a custom design specially built for Redwood (they call it a Falcon or FIT) Heartland is also a Thor company, Cedar Creek is Forest River. Also look at Open Range, they have some rigs in the same category as most of the ones you mentioned, only the Redwood would be not comparable. I have not looked at the Dutchman Infinity, as it has too small capacity in the water/holding tanks for us. But if you will always be on full hook-ups that may not be a problem for you
For full time, you want the best quality you can find, for the price you can afford. Large heated and insulated tanks, well insulated (for reduced heating and cooling), good galley design, well built, constructed to withstand living in full time. Check the fit and finish. Make sure the floor plan will work for you on a long term basis. I am sure you already know this, sorry I rambled on so.
On edit: As pointed out by others, most manufacturers will not honour the warranty if you live in the trailer full-time, some even if it is an extended period, because of the wear and tear of everyday use.
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I looked for over 2 years at a ton of fivers while full timing in an older motor home. I finally decided on the fiver in my signature. I based my decision on most, if not all the things mentioned by CHUGGS above. Based upon my experience with my Montana, you will not be disappointed with a Montana. I have had mine since last September and have not had a single problem with it whatsoever. Good craftmanship was one of my 'must haves'.
RV:2012 Montana 3625RE Quad Slide SKP#108921 TV:2004.5 Dodge Dually 3500 HD Favorite Quote:''Life's tough, pilgrim, and it's even tougher if you're stupid.''-- John Wayne
Love our Montana, and loved the one before that. All of those you mentioned are nice. The Redwood is fairly new - they look good, but you run the risk of them getting the bugs worked out. Montana had a few learning curves since 2000.
I don't believe I've ever heard of Montana owner being denied warranty because of full timing, or any brand for that matter. Be interesting to hear any stories.