2011 Palomino Maverick 1000SLLB on a 2004 Dodge Quadcab CTD Ram3500 SRW long bed equipped with Timbren springs, Stable Load bump stops, Rickson 19.5" wheels/"G" range tires and a Helwig "Big Wig" rear anti sway bar.
NC Hauler wrote: I KNEW you were talking about a Dodge, but the GVWR is 12,300# for the new DRW 3500.
GCWR is 30,000#....I know that my truck, with the 4:10 rear end has a much lower GCWR than yours does, (mine is 24,500#) and my trucks GVWR is 12,200#....yours is 12,300#...So using MY numbers with my 5er, which is loaded to 15,300#, is under GVWR and the Trucks GCWR..
You don't have a problem....I'm just telling you this from doing the math on MY truck, ,and my truck is a CC/LB/ DRW Cummins, 4X4...it weighs more than the truck your talking about, thus the reason I doubted it was a DRW truck, but never looked at weighs on a Reg cab/ 2 wheel drive dually, but still thought it would weigh more than that.
you'll have no problem towing that 5er with the Dodge Dually .............'nuff said....
again, on the GVWR with Tow Max, I was under the impression the GVWR is 12,300#...Couldn't understand why Dodge raised their GCWR from 24,500# all the way up to 30,000#, but only raised the trucks GVWR up 100#...just don't make any sense, and if it is, as you say, only 12,000#, it makes even less sense......
It's 12200 - I was just rounding numbers since I was more interested in knowing if my math was right than talking about a specific truck. Maybe I should have just posted accurate figures. Sorry about that.
It *IS* odd the change in numbers from yours to mine, though. And mine is 4wd.
mobilcastle wrote: Your pin weight figure is off. If you load your 5ver to its max at 16400lbs your pin weight will be about 3200lbs which in your example would work out to a payload of 5200lbs + curb weight would be 12400lbs-I think a dually is your answer if you are going to tow 16k+ 5ver IMHO.
Never said it was a SRW. Gotcha on the pin weight - I was working with the manufacturer spec which is unloaded, and it increases with load, right? So full load I just about max out the GVWR of the truck itself, but should be passable, especially if I'm not always at 100% load I think.
Snow_King wrote: First of all the curb weight of a truck with a GCWR of 30000 and GVWR of 12K is going to weigh around 8000 to 8500 lbs maybe more, not 7200. The 7200 figure is for the base 2WD stripper.
Why do you say that? I got these figures from the manufacturer. Ram 3500 *regular cab* DRW max tow 4.10. Does that change your opinion?
You can get a pdf with detailed specs by looking at the very bottom right of the page. My truck is on page 22 of that document.
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2012 RAM 3500 PICKUP TOWING CHART
NOTE: BASE WEIGHTS CAN CHANGE
RAM REGULAR CAB 4WD LONG BED - ST
6.7L 24V Turbo Diesel (ETJ) A6 68RFE 6 sp AUTO (DG7) 4.10 12,200 4,950 7,249 4,330 2,918 5,500 9,350 30,000 22,150
Notice the "NOTE" BASE WEIGHTS CAN CHANGE"
So, every little thing that you put into the truck. Full fuel tank, hitch, tool box, tools etc etc adds the the 7249 figure. You will easy up that number 300-600 lbs. Add 55 pounds for a SLT.
I have a 2001.5 2500 Std Cab 4x4 that weighs over 7k ready to tow. That was my first clue.
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Snow_King wrote: First of all the curb weight of a truck with a GCWR of 30000 and GVWR of 12K is going to weigh around 8000 to 8500 lbs maybe more, not 7200. The 7200 figure is for the base 2WD stripper.
Why do you say that? I got these figures from the manufacturer. Ram 3500 *regular cab* DRW max tow 4.10. Does that change your opinion?
You can get a pdf with detailed specs by looking at the very bottom right of the page. My truck is on page 22 of that document.
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2012 RAM 3500 PICKUP TOWING CHART
NOTE: BASE WEIGHTS CAN CHANGE
RAM REGULAR CAB 4WD LONG BED - ST
6.7L 24V Turbo Diesel (ETJ) A6 68RFE 6 sp AUTO (DG7) 4.10 12,200 4,950 7,249 4,330 2,918 5,500 9,350 30,000 22,150
Notice the "NOTE" BASE WEIGHTS CAN CHANGE"
So, every little thing that you put into the truck. Full fuel tank, hitch, tool box, tools etc etc adds the the 7249 figure. You will easy up that number 300-600 lbs. Add 55 pounds for a SLT.
I have a 2001.5 2500 Std Cab 4x4 that weighs over 7k ready to tow. That was my first clue.
I accounted for a fuel load, people, gear and hitch (and stated such in my first post). The curb weight for the SLT and others is different on that chart - I'm looking at the curb weight for my truck. Why would it be different than the manufacturer says? Curb weight by my understanding does not include stuff you put in/on it anyhow.
Not trying to be argumentative, but I don't think I quite agree with you about this. I do appreciate your replies!
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...just don't make any sense, and if it is, as you say, only 12,000#, it makes even less sense......
Gotcha on the pin weight - I was working with the manufacturer spec which is unloaded, and it increases with load, right? So full load I just about max out the GVWR of the truck itself, but should be passable, especially if I'm not always at 100% load I think.
