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Hi Team,

Trying to decide on the last piece of my solar/battery upgrade.

Background:
1) I have 320+ watt of Solar on Roof
2) This is tied into a Morningstar MPPT controller
3) Charge controller is great and has programmable charge cvoltages and equalization
4) When we dry camp we use 70 to 90 AH per day.
5) I only have room for two batteries..

The question:
Would you choose:
1) 200 AH of 12 volt AGM (2 Exide MC-31 AGM 200 Megacycle batteries) OR
2) 310 AH of 12 volt Golf cart batteries (current battery of choice is US Battery 12 volt "sweeper" battery model US12V XC)

Considerations:
1) Both costs are basically the same
2) I have read (and been told by battery people) that AGMs can reliably be taken down 80%. So that gives us about 160 AH of useful power on the Exide AGMs
3) Using the often cited 50% figure for Lead Acid, That gives us about 155 AH of usable power for the US battery 12 volt "Sweeper" batterys.

So looking for input here. Which would you pick and why?
Thanks in advance for your time

* This post was edited 05/02/12 06:38am by cruz-in *

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Not a battery expert,actually more of a question I guess.

You get the useable ah out of the AGM's by running them down 80%, They may do it reliably but are you getting 12v at that point?

My choice would be the higher AH battery. they give the same usable AH but stay above 12v doing it


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JiminDenver wrote:

Not a battery expert,actually more of a question I guess.

You get the useable ah out of the AGM's by running them down 80%, They may do it reliably but are you getting 12v at that point?

My choice would be the higher AH battery. they give the same usable AH but stay above 12v doing it
Great point about "getting 12V"! AGM's are typically "full" at 13V. What do AGM users get for voltage at 50%, 80%? I don't know. BTW, Trojan's and Surrette's can be takendown to 80% also (I'd imagine any good quality cyclable battery can be taken down that far). Like AGM's, you simply lose battery life. I'd always go for more capacity though.

If you haven't read it, check out my thread where I try to decide the same thing: Universal AGM's or Trojan 6V's


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Posted: 05/02/12 09:07am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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Let me put it this way... AMP HOURS are good things, you want as many of them as you can A:Afford and Barry.

Thus I'd go with the larger flooded wet cell bank.

AGM's do have an advantage in rough service, or service where they are not maintained "This side up" neither describes RV service..

SOME AGM's also can be more rapidly re-charged, but you do not have the ability to recharge them that fast so this does not apply either.

Flooded wet cells, if properly maintained, last longer, and cost less (As shown by your statment that 300+ amp hours worth of FWC's cost about the same as 200+ of AGM.. I'm surprised, AGM's are normally more expensive than that).

So I'd go for the bigger (Amphour wise) package.


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Based on your daily power consumption (seems considerable though...), and the fact that solar is often variable, I'd choose the FWC's.JMO.

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"I'm surprised, AGM's are normally more expensive than that)."

I can get the Exide MC-31 AGM200 Mega Cycle Group 31 100 AH battery for $169 and that includes core and tax.

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3 tons wrote:

Based on your daily power consumption (seems considerable though...), and the fact that solar is often variable, I'd choose the FWC's.JMO.


Power consumption includes some use of the heater during the night.

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i'd go for the 310ah of lead acid myself


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Posted: 05/02/12 05:59pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Humm so no takers for the AGMs?

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