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Allegheny N F Camper

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Posted: 05/02/12 10:35am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I'm looking at a buying a 5ver that is over my towing rate. Heres the thing I manage a campground. and only tow my trailer twice a year about 20 miles each way. The 5ver I'm looking at is about 70 miles away. Heres my question do you think I'll be ok given the limited amount of towing I'll be doing.

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Most accidents happen within 25 miles of home......so they say.

That's a lot of trailer.......gross weight and huge pin weight for your 2500.

But I think you have already made of your mind (only 20 miles/twice a year).

Overloaded is overloaded......distance doesn't matter IMHO.


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Other than legal isssues should you be unfortunate enough to have an accident I don't see why you couldn't accomplish these limited tows with your truck. Now if you have to tow up some step grades you might be under powered.


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Take a look at wadcutter his posts are very informative about weight and the law. As for your set up you'll tax your tv and have some white knuckles. I used my toyota sienna to tow a hybrid I was over by 5 to 600lbs it did fine but I did not like it. My opinion for short 20mile trip have fun should be no biggy.


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Check around to find a local hauler. Only 70 miles...should not be expensive..I say "better safe then sorry".





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Everyone likes to make this out like it's an accident looking for a place to happen... Really, it isn't.

They say most accidents happen close to home, but they also say SPEED KILLS. A one-time trip of 70 miles, at 35MPH down secondary roads, isn't going to kill you or the truck.

It's going to be a HUGE load on the truck, over 3000lbs in the bed, but the truck will handle it without even exceeding the rear tire rating. There will be a LOT of squat, but again, it's only for a short time and at low speeds, right?

Farmers run 20 miles with 10+ tons of round bales on a gooseneck trailer behind a 2500-series pickup truck several times a day. Their trucks do get beat up, but remember they are doing this MANY times a day for 6 months out of the year, OFF-road.

You can handle 14,000lbs on smooth roads once a year without causing any undue wear, tear, or damage to your truck.

If you were traveling with the 5th wheel, I would agree you need a bigger truck. For this, though? Not necessary. It's common sense.


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mkirsch wrote:

Everyone likes to make this out like it's an accident looking for a place to happen... Really, it isn't.

They say most accidents happen close to home, but they also say SPEED KILLS. A one-time trip of 70 miles, at 35MPH down secondary roads, isn't going to kill you or the truck.

It's going to be a HUGE load on the truck, over 3000lbs in the bed, but the truck will handle it without even exceeding the rear tire rating. There will be a LOT of squat, but again, it's only for a short time and at low speeds, right?

Farmers run 20 miles with 10+ tons of round bales on a gooseneck trailer behind a 2500-series pickup truck several times a day. Their trucks do get beat up, but remember they are doing this MANY times a day for 6 months out of the year, OFF-road.

You can handle 14,000lbs on smooth roads once a year without causing any undue wear, tear, or damage to your truck.

If you were traveling with the 5th wheel, I would agree you need a bigger truck. For this, though? Not necessary. It's common sense.



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I wouldn't overload the truck no matter how much you tow. Just determine the towing capacity of your particular truck and get you best estimate of what the trailer will weigh loaded.


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Posted: 05/02/12 02:53pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

A Good 5th wheel hitch is $3000. A cheap on is $1000. Find someone to move it for you, save the hitch cost and hassle of removing/installing it for a couple times a year.


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Allegheny N F Camper wrote:

I'm looking at a buying a 5ver that is over my towing rate. Heres the thing I manage a campground. and only tow my trailer twice a year about 20 miles each way. The 5ver I'm looking at is about 70 miles away. Heres my question do you think I'll be ok given the limited amount of towing I'll be doing.

TV 2011 Chevy 2500 crew WT
6.0 3:73

5ver 2005 Newmar Kounty Star 35DBSA
GVW 16,250
Dry 13,730


So the GVWR of the 2011 is 9800 or 9900#? Not sure and the dry weight on your Newmar doesn't mean a whole lot unless it is literally empty...The GVW of your 5er is 700# lighter than my 5er but I weigh in at 15,300# and pin weight is about 3200#.....No way would I try towing that 5er with that truck...but as others stated...your not an accident looking for a place to happen and you only tow it twice a year...it's your truck, it's your 5er...As a couple others stated, I'd pay someone to tow it for you, but I've only learned the hard way, so what do I know.........


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