BCSnob
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The dog food in question was manufactured in Oct 2011, according to the signs at Tractor Supply.
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I took a bag back to Tractor Supply yesterday, and they said they are taking anything you bring in back. They didn't check the dates or serial number.
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This is actually an additional recall which was issued AFTER the report from CDC came out. Which in includes several other brands.
Here is a list of the brands for those that are not aware of the name brands that were recalled. IMHO I don't think its a complete list as the wording says the "recall covers a number of...including" which means not to be all inclusive. Unless it is just a grammar error?
The recall covers a number of pet food brands made at the Gaston plant, including Canidae, Natural Balance, Apex, Kirkland, Chicken Soup for the Pet Lover's Soul, Country Value, Diamond, Diamond Naturals, Premium Edge, Professional, 4Health and Taste of the Wild.CDC traced back 14 human cases of salmonella poisoning from dog food made at their plant, this was reported today.Salmonella in dog food sickens 14 people across UShttp://online.wsj.com/article/APc290bfb0868843dfb5de236ef29e9af5.html
Went to buy dog food yesterday and the owner of the store has pulled all the brands that they are aware of to be made at Diamond and will no longer be selling any of them. For those that feed some of these popular brands let's hope they will switch manufacturer's now and owners will be able to buy them again with a better assurance.
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BCSnob
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The risk here is the same as handling (or feeding) raw chicken.
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rockhillmanor
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Finished Dog food product is not a raw product as chicken is.
Salmonella should not be in a high temp cooked, baked product.
One very good possibility is the unsafe handling of the raw product coming in and cross contaminating the machinery/packaging part of the process. Remember the source and quality of raw 'meat' products allowed in pet foods is most certainly not the best to begin with!
If workers are pouring raw product to be mixed into machinery and not disinfecting their hands properly and then continuing to work on the remaining lines of the machinery it certainly could happen.
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BCSnob
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I find it interesting that the FDA provides the same handling recommendations for pet food and treats as the CDC does for raw meat.
look it up
FDA Tips for Preventing Foodborne Illnes........ Associated with Pet Food and Pet Treats
CDC Food Safety
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BCSnob
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rockhillmanor wrote:Salmonella should not be in a high temp cooked, baked product. The devil is in the details here.
It takes a combination of temperature and time to kill Salmonella, lower temps require longer times. To determine if Salmonella "should not" be present in the finished pet food we would need to know the process parameters (time and temp) for extrusion and enrobing to see if Salmonella brought in with the ingredients should be totally killed. Do you know these numbers for each manufacturer? I don't; therefore, I don't know if all possible Salmonella contamination should have been killed by the programmed processes. Because of this I won't know if Salmonella found in finished product months after bagging was due to recontamination by sloppy handling procedures or if there was an undetectable amount of Salmonella at the time of bagging which flourished in the bag to the point where it was detectable months later.
I noted in their recall announcement that Wellness tests all their food for Salmonella prior to shipping to customers (i.e. post production) and their product manufactured by Diamond was negative for Salmonella.
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BCSnob wrote:The risk here is the same as handling (or feeding) raw chicken.
Well, it does sort of take care of one of the standard objections to feeding raw, doesn't it? No way to say that it's "safer" at this point.
The difference being that people who are handling raw chicken know they are handling raw chicken.
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rockhillmanor
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That WAS an interesting link. Should we glean from this that there are not and have not been a zero salmonella tolerance in pet food? Sure does sound like it.
"While the FDA has stepped up its efforts to minimize the incidence of foodborne illness associated with pet foods and treats,.."
Maybe Doc can chime in here.
Does the level of 'concentration' of salmonella in a product directly relate to how sick a human or animal will get?
Does the concentration level of salmonella show up in the blood or determined by growing it out in a petrie dish to surmise the animal was sicked by it?
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BCSnob
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The FDA has not yet mandated Salmonella testing of pet foods by the manufacturer (only issued guidance and stated they will be doing random testing). I have posted links in this and the other threads to document this.
(side note: The USDA/FDA doesn't have a zero tolerance for Salmonella in raw meat.)
A single bacteria may be capable of infecting (the bactera survives and thrives) a human or animal.
Dogs seem to be more tolerant of a Salmonella infection; it takes a higher level of Salmonella in a healthy dog to induce a reaction (symptoms of illness) as compared to a healthy human.
Testing for Salmonella typically involves taking a sample (blood, urine, stool, etc) and culturing for Salmonella or by testing for antibodies for Salmonella in a blood sample.
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