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Downatthelake

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Posted: 05/02/12 07:06pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

My 2011 BHS32 KZ-Spree has had some issues I was wondering if anyone else has had.
Bought the camper new, ordered from factory last year so camper is just a year old, couch cushions had to be replaced under warranty (foam didn't pop back to normal), micro-wave door broke, no way to kill the breaker for that without turing off the hot water heater, this year just last week the windows on the left side (slide side) leaked, carpet under sofa wet, bunk mattresses got wet. Found out that KZ-Spree quit caulking the windows a year of so ago and now use a foam seal. This does not seal well so be sure to keep track of the windows, spent 4 hours caulking all of the windows.
Another issue is the A/C isn't big enough for the camper and the A/C vent locations are really goofy, two in the main living area within 3' of each other and two in the bunk area right above the top bunk on the right side about 2' apart.
Insulation pacakge is minimal, they don't offer a heavier insulation package so now I can hear the people outside my camper and I'm sure they can hear me talk using a normal voice.
And last but not least, I ordered the satelite package and they wired it backwards at he factory.
Tired to contact comapny twice and no one ever replies back.

Love the camper style and layout just wish quality control was a bit better.

Happy camping............

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Well, thank goodness there's KZ's 2 year warranty! Your dealership are the "go to" guys for any issues you have with the trailer. Period! They've got your hard earned cash in their pockets, make them earn it! They will interceed on your behalf if needed directly to KZ.

The noise does not penetrate well thru the walls, the windows are likely the weak link there. Heavier insulated drapes will keep the noise down as well as make it cooler inside is hot weather..and warmer in the cold.

KZ is usually very responsive to issues, as long as you go thru the "chain of command"!

Sorry for your "teething issues", hope they all get resolved to your satisfaction soon.


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I have a 2010 Spree 240BHS. Can't say as I've experienced the issues you are asking about but I have "enhanced" several factory installed weaknesses and am constantly monitoring other suspected weaknesses (exterior seams, roof seams etc..) to avoid problems.

The first thing we had to fix was the entire brake wiring on the camper. It was shorting constantly so ppower to brakes was interrupted intermittently and without warning, uncomfortable to say the least. As we are 2nd owners, there was no warranty left so we had to hire someone to re-wire the entire system, works perfect now. The wires inside the axle tubes had all worn through from rubbing on steel.

One major weakness in our camper were the drawer slides, they were plastic and broke all the time. I replaced them with ball bearing steel slides, much better now! I'm also working on curtain rods and window treatments not staying in place during travel and proper sealing of rear exterior corner seams.

All in all, our Spree has been great.


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Haven't had any of those issues.
Take advantage of the 2yr warranty.


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First RV I'm guessing. Doesn't sound particularly unusual. RVs of all makes are thrown together quickly and then the dealer is relied upon for quality control. With a new unit there are most always issues that need corrected.

Spend a little time on here reading about bent axles, cracked frames, roof leaks, delamination of panels, and your issues will appear trivial. I'm not discounting your concern, I'm just saying some bugs are normal.


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Downatthelake wrote:

Another issue is the A/C isn't big enough for the camper and the A/C vent locations are really goofy, two in the main living area within 3' of each other and two in the bunk area right above the top bunk on the right side about 2' apart.
Insulation package is minimal, they don't offer a heavier insulation package so now I can hear the people outside my camper and I'm sure they can hear me talk using a normal voice.


Our 09 318BHS suffers from the undersized A/C and poor vent layout. 13.5K BTUs isn't enough for a 32ft TT with 2 slides. Should come from the factory with 15K BTU. Upgrading the A/C is $800 at this point. May still not fix the issue. I did add larger vents that actually close. Also, added to extra vents in the main living area. See the link below:

AC Vent Mod

The R7 insulation in the roof isn't enough. I've considered loosening up my ceiling panels to add more insulation. Also, be careful of the clear skylight over the tub. Turns the bathroom into a greenhouse on a sunny day. I cover mine with Reflectrix to block the light and heat. I also added ceiling vent pillows to block the light and heat.

I've considered getting a portable household AC unit, something in the 5K-8K BTU range for $200-$300. Then, I would find some way to vent it outside.

Get with your dealer to see if they will upgrade the A/C for the difference in cost. It's worth a shot.


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We have a Spree 323css that we stayed in 4.5 months this winter. The AC and insulation are both upgrades you can order. Probably in the north they are not needed though.
I'm not real happy with the couch cushions or the couch. Also the drawer comes open while driving. I even put a magnetic latch on it but it's not strong enough.

Aside from that it has been very good.


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Posted: 05/04/12 06:15am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Consumers want everything to be ultra light weight so they can tow it with their gas-sipping compact SUVs, and they like affordable, and then are surprised to see how cheaply and minimalistic these things are made. Light & cheap will not equate to solidly built with quality materials and parts.

That said, sorry to hear of your troubles. I've had good luck with both of my Sprees. Glad to hear KZ and your dealer are looking after you though.


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Once again after returning from a trip I have to do something with the drawer slides. They either break, come loose or jam and we end up with drawers sitting out so we can get stuff out of them. Looking at replacing with full extension ball bearing slides. Just need to put some side supports in the opening to attach them to. Current ones attach at the back of the cabinet, hard to reach and replace when they break or come loose. Our dealer "fixed them' a couple of times under warranty but just put the same thing back in.





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jessjerr - The drawers in our camper did the same as you describe, I just replaced all my KZ installed drawer slides with these:

http://www.drawerslides.com/c/knape-vogt-8400-rv

They are installed about the same as the KZ pieces but mount into a solid steel bracket in the back and to the face frame on the front. It's actually a simple install although a bit time consuming.

To measure just take a tape measure and place on surface where current bracket behind drawer is and measure distance from there to the very front of the face frame where the back of the drawer face rests when closed - that's the length of the replacement slide you need.

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