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Huntindog

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Posted: 05/03/12 08:03pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

At 32' your TT is TOO long for a single friction device.
Any TT over about 6K or longer than about 25' requires TWO friction devices...It's right there in the manuals.

So all you really NEED is another friction device, and perhaps dialing in the WD system with the right sized bars.

I have used a single friction device, then a double, and now the EQUALIZER. AS far as I can tell from a seat of the pants feel, a double friction control is about the same as a EQUALIZER, which is about the same as the dual cam. There have been engineers on here doing the math and their figures are about what my experience has been.

The dual cam has one drawback that I consider serious. The bars run downhill and are very close to the ground on many installs.
That eliminated it from any consideration for me.

The only reason I got a EQUALIZER is that I wore out my standard WD hitch with friction sway controls. The friction controls were still OK, but the chains were about 1/2 way worn through and the bar ends about the same. So since I basically needed almost everything, I was able to sell what I had for parts and get the EQUALIZER for a better price than anything else.

I would have no problem using a friction control(s) with standard WD again.

In fact on a lightweight TT such as yours, it has a advantage.
Both the DC and the EQUALIZER rely on tounge weight for the sway control force. The greater the TW, the greater the sway control.
The friction controls with standard WD seperate the two functions. So you can dial up more sway controls regardless of how light your TW is.

* This post was edited 05/04/12 02:56am by Huntindog *


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Posted: 05/04/12 10:09am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Friction sway device is a bandaid at best.. Even a Dual Cam or Equal-i-zer brand need tongue weight to work effectively..

If the OP does not have enough tongue weight to begin with, no hitch or device is going to fix the issue.. If only one link of WD tension puts his front end back to unloaded height, there is something else wrong..

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Posted: 05/04/12 11:12am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I need to take my camper back to the dealer tomorrow for a recall and to get my fridge checked out. I am going to ask if they can weigh the tongue vs. me trying to rig up the bath scale route. I never had a tongue weight problem in the past with the PUP or the first TT we owned. I always try and be aware of where we are loading weight into the TT and to keep it in front of the axles. My old TT had a higher tongue weight so I think one issue is I need to back off the head angle a little bit to relieve some tension. I have only made one trip with the new TT and left everything the same since we just picked it up a few days before leaving.

At least I know the EZ is just fine. I may still upgrade just to get the dual sway control vs. having to fiddle with two friction bars. I still like the looks of the Swaypro but there are few reviews of it out there.

If I get my tongue weight I will be sure to let everyone know. The closest full scales are not all that close for me to easily get it done.


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Posted: 05/04/12 11:45am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Thanks for the update CHD.. I know it's not as easy as we all seem to think it is to "get it weighed"..

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Posted: 05/04/12 11:53am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

My two cents on the matter....

First, tell the wife to quit worrying about the creaking, groaning, and popping noise. It's all perfectly normal, and nothing to worry about. ALL the systems except for the ProPride/Hensley twins do it. It's just how they work.

Second, they all have their pros and cons, but they all work fairly well. Personally I'm biased towards the Equalizer, its Reese brother (which is slightly different in terms of the friction materials and how they interact with the spring bars), and the Reese Dual Cam. If I had to pick one, I would probably go with the Dual Cam as in my opinion, it's the most robust and likely the least prone to issues with rain/dirt changing the friction sway control function.

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Posted: 05/05/12 09:27am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

After reading all the posts my thought is with a tt of that length could the tow vehicles wheel base be too short and sounds like a lot of toung weight for a hefty half ton even if the rating says it can real world says different.Might think of going to a cat scale to have your set up checked that might help with what wd set up to look at.

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