Lady Fitzgerald
Tempe, AZ, USA, Earth
Senior Member
Joined: 04/26/2011
View Profile
 Offline
|
PIs cost less than Surge Guards and now have a lifetime warranty. PI's hardwired EMS units (much better than simple surge and spike protection) can be serviced in the field which is faster than having to send the unit in for repair. None of the Surge Guard EMS units can be repaired.
Jeannie
|
dbates
Marion, Indiana
Senior Member
Joined: 02/05/2006
View Profile
Good Sam RV Club Member
Offline
|
In the 6 years I'll visited this forum I've seen only one bad vs. dozens of good reviews about Progressive's quality and service. I'm sorry to say that I can't say the same about GurgeGuard. Although there are a lot of satisfied SurgeGuard users there have been numerous comments that after their stated warranty expires their only response is "buy a new one".
As far as protection their 50 amp EMS products are almost identical but SurgeGuard's cost about $100 more. On all other units Progressive's Joule ratings are substantially higher (the higher the Joules the better the surge protection).
Do multiple searches above to see past postings about Progressive and SurgeGuard for more information.
Dave
Plus New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island & Nova Scotia
|
TechWriter
On The Road
Senior Member
Joined: 12/22/2002
View Profile
|
dbates wrote:In the 6 years I'll visited this forum I've seen only one bad vs. dozens of good reviews about Progressive's quality and service.
Do multiple searches above to see past postings about Progressive and SurgeGuard for more information.
I searched on "progressive" and found these 5 bad reviews of Progressive products for just a little over one year -- I'm guessing that there will be more if I go back a full 6 years:
Circuit Board Fell Out
Forum User on His 4th Bad 50A Progressive
Inaccurate Current Readings
Progressive Unit Scorched Floor
I'm sure you could find TRC Surge Guard horror stories too, but that's not the point -- you're claiming Progressive units are superior, right?
If this is all you can come up with after 6 years, well, I'm not convinced.
dbates wrote:
As far as protection their 50 amp EMS products are almost identical but SurgeGuard's cost about $100 more.
Yes, and Surge Guards are bigger than Progressives -- but Surge Guards have Plain English remote displays as opposed to Progressive's "E" codes (keep a chart handy to remind you that "E-6" means "Line voltage below 106 volts"). I'll take Plain English for the extra $100.
dbates wrote:
On all other units Progressive's Joule ratings are substantially higher . . .
Two internal units compared . . .
3,580 joules & 88,000A surge current -- Progressive 50A HW50C (page 2 of install manual)
3,350 joules & 130,000A surge current -- Surge Guard 50A Model 40240 (page 1 of product sheet)
dbates wrote:
. . . (the higher the Joules the better the surge protection).
I'm not an Electrical Engineer, so I'll gladly defer to their expertise, but I believe surge protection is not simply a matter of who has the greater joule rating.
2001 Newmar Mountain Aire 4095 DP
Full Timer since May 2013
- Solar -- Solar Power
- Water -- Water Filtration
- Blog -- www.rvSeniorMoments.com
|
Nomadac
Columbus, IN
Senior Member
Joined: 11/22/2004
View Profile
Good Sam RV Club Member
Offline
|
I have a Progressive EMS and it has saved me several times for low voltage. When I was researching both I found the Progressive had greater protection ratings than the competition.
Arnie
2003 Travel Supreme MH
38KSO1 Cummins ISC 350HP
2004 Honda Pilot w/SMI Air Force One Brake Sys.
1963 Pontiac Grand Prix 20' Enclosed Car Trailer
|
TS21sso
North Central Texas
Full Member
Joined: 07/21/2008
View Profile
Offline
|
Thanks for all the replys. The decision based on your replys has been made rather easy. Safe and Happy travels for you all.
|
|
|
Noel
Southern Oregon
Senior Member
Joined: 08/01/2002
View Profile
Good Sam RV Club Member
Offline
|
Do a search
Noel
2003 National Dolphin LX 6335, W22, 8.1L
|
woody
RFD Forest MS
Full Member
Joined: 03/04/2001
View Profile
Good Sam RV Club Member
Offline
|
I hardwired the Progressive after buying my RV listed in my
signature below, have never owned a Surge Guard, the Progressive
has never failed me, only thing I have to turn it off while
running my generator, otherwise it does what it's supposed to do.
1996 F-350 PSD dully
2006 CrossRoads Cruiser CF29re
65 gal. aux. American Tank
Progressive Industries EMSHW30C
Honda EU2000i
|
09FLSTC
Out West
Senior Member
Joined: 02/26/2009
View Profile
Offline
|
I just bought one too. Surge Protector I didn't know they had them but my favorite distributor and its REALLY in stock. Will hook it up this coming weekend.
|
Us out West
Let's see...last night we stayed in......
Senior Member
Joined: 12/13/2011
View Profile
Good Sam RV Club Member
|
How about this one from Progressive?
Our Trip Journal
2012 Jayco Pinnacle (View)
36KitchenPantryTripleSlide
MorRyde pin box and suspension
Curt Q24
Dual Pane windows
Auto Levelers
2 AC's
And more...
2009 Silverado 3500HD 4X4 (View)
CC,
Dura-Max 6.6/Allison
LB
DRW
American Tank 65 gal. Aux Fuel
|
fj12ryder
Platte City, MO
Senior Member
Joined: 08/19/2003
View Profile
|
I have the Surge Guard 50 amp and it has done it's job so far. The first one we had stopped working for some reason and was replaced under warranty with no issues. They didn't require that we send the old one in, just shipped us a new one. Plus the unit was actually a week or two out of warranty but no problem.
Howard and Peggy
"Don't Panic"
|
|
|
