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Flarpswitch

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We have a Dometic 16" round sink that has a hinged glass cover and a fold down faucet. While it is an interesting design, Winnebago could have come up with a better installation. The fold down faucet is not tall enough for general usage. The nozzle is fixed and can't be cleared of debris. Ours has developed cracks on the end that fits into the swivel and now leaks. It appears to me the whole faucet assembly will have to be replaced at a cost of about $80 and I can find no other replacement option. The sink does not drain unless the RV is on an obvious uphill grade. Water always pools opposite the drain. An RV sink should accommodate the less than perfect leveling at the campsite. Another design flaw is having the cold water routed through an under-counter filter. Having all cold water usage through the filter shortens the lifespan. I am inclined to replace the sink and mount the faucet on the counter. Most sinks have accessory covers for when they are not in use. Our RoadTrek had a stainless steel bar sink that worked well. The faucet was of dismal quality having way too many individual body parts with O-rings that failed, leaking everywhere. The dealer replaced it with a standard faucet and with a high rise spout it was a perfect solution. The faucet mounted Brita filter took care of the drinking water with a flip of the lever. In our current situation, there is plenty of room not only for a convenient counter mounted faucet, but a drinking water faucet as well. Has anyone been down this road with your RV and what did you do in the end?


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Well not exactly with all your issues, but I have replaced the faucet I found a high-rise at Lowes that worked n perfectly, much less than a “RV faucet”. As for the filtered water, I purchased, again at Lowes, a separate bar faucet with a flip lever than tap into the cold water line. Your drainage problem could be either a unlevel counter top and/or a clogged drain.
Replacing the parts is not really hard, you may need an adapter for the faucet to the line, but other then that the biggest issue is a lack of room if you are shall we say, a little large. You might consider removing the hinged cover and just using it without the hinge,

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As far as draining problem look under sink see if you have a inside vent it may be bad to check unscrew run water and see if flow is better.





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I have seen on-line, that shallow round sink installed in a number of different motor homes.
It seems impractical for every day kitchen needs, more like a bathroom sink than a kitchen sink.
Fancy looking for sure, but does it end there? Does it work well for "true" kitchen use?



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Other than being round it looks like it is the same depth as most standard RV kitchen sinks.

I do like the idea of it folding up flap to give you more counter space when not in use. I'd sure think about the counter space you are going to loose when its shut, before you replace it with a standard upright faucet.


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Our sink came with a Corian cover that stores behind the stove along with the stove cover, but after our first vacation it has been permanently stored outside the motor home in our regular house. We cannot find a good reason to cover our sink. Covering the stove is another story. We do that all the time to gain counter space, especially beneficial when doing the dishes. We set a dish tray over the stove and place the dish rack on it.

Our motor home sink is near twice the depth of the round one in discussion. It is quite nice. It will puddle water if the rig is significantly out of level, but very little. We never considered it to be a problem.


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My MH came with a counter mounted faucet, which I have replaced with a faucet from Lowes. If you need more counter space you could add an extension like what is visible in Ron Dittmer's photo, if you don't already have one.


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The drains for the kitchen sink, bathroom sink and shower work great even if the the RV is bit out of level as you would be in transit at a rest stop or shopping center parking lot. But, the water has to get there first. The shower floor-pan is contoured in such a way that the water runs toward the drain. The bathroom sink is a no-brainer as the bowl is a dome shaped. The problem with the kitchen sink is that the bottom is flat. The RV does have a slight incline to the front with the floors, counter tops and all else level in-line. To get the kitchen sink to drain on its own, the RV has to be parked with the front end higher than level. Anyway, in an RV or Marine installation, common sense would dictate that the design of the fixture would accommodate various attitudes of the vehicle/vessel. Hello gravity.

I don't want to get into replacing the counter-top, so I will stay with a round sink. The factory did cut the hole a bit on the generous side so the original sink is not even a good fit. (quality issue) Dometic has a plain round sink that would be a perfect retrofit, that is if it does not have the same flat bottom. Of course, it has been discontinued. Tomorrow, I will grab my tape measure and tour the home stores. I suspect that a standard home plumbing solution will cost 1/2 as much as an RV one.

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tenbear wrote:

If you need more counter space you could add an extension like what is visible in Ron Dittmer's photo, if you don't already have one.
Yes the factory included a wooden counter extension seen hanging down, left of the sink, seen in both pictures. When in-use it makes entry and exit from the motor home difficult, but great otherwise. We try to use it only when we are inside for the duration of use. But in a pinch we squeeze past it.

If your rig has applicable room for one, they are very nice to have.

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I replaced the sink and faucet and the result was better than I expected. I examined photos of various Navion and View motor home floor plans and noticed on some the sink was a more conventional one with a counter mounted faucet. I went to a local Winnebago dealer parts department to get some prices for factory parts. They sent me out to the lot to look at a 2012 View to check out the parts and get the VIN number so they can look it up. Holy Smokes! By the time I get done ordering a new sink and faucet as installed, I would be investing another $400 to $500. There had to be an alternative. Visits to specialty and big box stores revealed that this project was going to be expensive. By accident, during an Internet search, I stumbled upon the Ikea web site. The "Boholmen" sink and "Tarnan" faucet for less than $100. I modified the plumbing for an additional cost of around $20. I removed all the pipes from the hot water heater to the kitchen sink. This eliminated the inadequate under-sink filter, the anti-siphon valves from the hot and cold water supply and a bucket full of tees, elbows. Now for winterizing, all have to do is open the drains and the faucets and let gravity do the work. I suspect that the one-way valves installed in the water lines to the sink was to keep water from the sink from backing up into the fresh water lines in the event that the spout was submerged. Anyway, this new arangement eliminates the need to pump antifreeze into the water lines. To install the sink, rather than cut a larger round hole, I just cut the counter top back at four spots to accommodate the clamps. Small pieces of 1/2" plywood glued underneath made up for the thinner counter top. The existing diameter of the hole allowed the new sink to drop in perfectly and hold it in place better. After all, this house does sometimes bounce down the road at 75 MPH. I can't figure out the picture link thing so here is the URL: https://plus.google.com/photos/108501235907828555564/albums/5742456885245222577?authkey=CLerxOblp_7gPQ

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