The Texan wrote: Typical American mentality, bigger is better, no matter the cost. Sorry, but that is the mindset that must be overcome. I am no tree hugger, but there has to be a compromise, if our grandchildren are to enjoy the world we live on.
I am not trying to be a jerk here but your response would hold much more merit if you weren't cruising around in a huge oil burner at the same time having a big gas burner for a toad.
If you're not trying to be a jerk, try harder. I for one get very weary of hearing holier than thou types telling me my fifth wheel travel trailer and 6.0 liter diesel are the things that are killing the planet. I get better fuel economy with my rig that a similar gasoline powered one.
There are a lot more candidates for pollution out there, and I don't see you calling THEM out.
People with your mindset would have all RVs destroyed and all RVers relegated to camping in tents at campsites without utilities, having traveled their by pedal power.
Not me, if that's your speed, have at it. But spare us the sermon.
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No kids no grands so I will leave thisplace better than what most do!! leaving no one to commit crimes or blow up the world. But I will enjoy the blessing GOD gave me to enjoy.
Bosch only does the electrics. There are about 7 European and Japanese Makers who have tier engines already being sold in the US. The rest want a market for the whole vehicle, not just the engine in the US.
The Texan wrote: Typical American mentality, bigger is better, no matter the cost. Sorry, but that is the mindset that must be overcome. I am no tree hugger, but there has to be a compromise, if our grandchildren are to enjoy the world we live on.
I am not trying to be a jerk here but your response would hold much more merit if you weren't cruising around in a huge oil burner at the same time having a big gas burner for a toad.
If you're not trying to be a jerk, try harder. I for one get very weary of hearing holier than thou types telling me my fifth wheel travel trailer and 6.0 liter diesel are the things that are killing the planet. I get better fuel economy with my rig that a similar gasoline powered one.
There are a lot more candidates for pollution out there, and I don't see you calling THEM out.
People with your mindset would have all RVs destroyed and all RVers relegated to camping in tents at campsites without utilities, having traveled their by pedal power.
Not me, if that's your speed, have at it. But spare us the sermon.
I was just pointing out the hypocracy in the post that I responded to. I for one have had it up to my neck with all of this green rhetoric and I am all for big diesel's and powerful V8 gasser's.
Was I a little better at being a jerk this time?
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Bosch only does the electrics. There are about 7 European and Japanese Makers who have tier engines already being sold in the US. The rest want a market for the whole vehicle, not just the engine in the US.
Not true Robert, Bosch does the High Pressure Fuel Pump and other injection hardware for GM, Ford and VW,
Big issue right now to the point of an NHTSA investigation of VW pump failures, Ford getting a bad rep for not honoring warranties when pumps fail.
GM uses the same Bosch CP4 HPFP, suffering similar failure rates, but are flying under the radar right now as they ARE covering the pumps under warranty.
If you have a day to spare, read the posts by Ricatic who had MAJOR issues with Ford and a particular dealership.
Keith J.
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Now there's an idea - but that would take all fun out of it. It is kind of funny though that Ford has interest in Cummins and yet used international engines and now Dodge is related to Fiat and yet uses the Cummins. Some of the big truck builders let you pick you engine and transmission.
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Quote: Now there's an idea - but that would take all fun out of it. It is kind of funny though that Ford has interest in Cummins and yet used international engines and now Dodge is related to Fiat and yet uses the Cummins. Some of the big truck builders let you pick you engine and transmission.
Ford's interest in Cummins was a short term investment, kind of a park some money for a few months investment, so it wouldn't be sitting in the cash drawer kind of thing. Ford had used International engines in the pickup for years before this short term investment and it had no bearing whatsoever on their long term strategy.
And in the same vein, Dodge has used Cummins engines for many years as a long term strategy that has been constant through its ups and downs with different owners. If this marriage of companies last's for the long term they might end up using a Fiat engine.
I think you know why we won't be seeing a choice of diesel engine manufacturers and transmissions in our domestic pickups.
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