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Posted: 05/09/12 07:52pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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Please post where you get 7" or 7.5" wide zero offset trailer wheels for LT265/75R16 tires? Reliable tire stores should not mount a tire on a wheel that is narrower than the minimal width a tire manufacture calls for.

If you are running tires on the wrong rims that is your issue, however it is wrong for you to encourage others to follow you miss steps

Load carrying tires on our trucks and trailers work best when the treads width = the wheels width. Most 265 tires have 8"-8.5" wide tread. Mounting them on a 7"-7.5" wheel isn't a wise move from a load carrying perspective. The tire at those max pressures will cause the tread to ballon, and ride the centers.
On a race vehicle we can play around with the rim widths to accpmplish different results. No biggie however a load carrying wheel/tire is a whole different matter.

This from Dunlap; (a google has much more of the same info from other sources)

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RIM WIDTH
Correct rim width ensures flex at the designed flex point in a tire sidewall for optimum tire performance.

If the rim is too narrow, the flex point moves toward the shoulder area, creating heat buildup in the shoulder, which reduces tire life and could result in failure.

If the rim is too wide, the flex point moves towards the rim area, causing heat buildup in the lower sidewall, which reduces tire life and could result in failure.

Within the acceptable range of rim widths, one can select wider or narrower rims than the measuring rim. Selection of a wider rim, from within the approved range, (T & RA tables) stiffens the sidewall and improves handling at the expense of handling. If carried too extreme, either too narrow or too wide of a rim, it can result in uneven tread/pavement contact pressure causing uneven wear and potentially reduced traction, or increased vulnerability to bead dis-lodgement.


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JIMNLIN wrote:

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Please post where you get 7" or 7.5" wide zero offset trailer wheels for LT265/75R16 tires? Reliable tire stores should not mount a tire on a wheel that is narrower than the minimal width a tire manufacture calls for.

If you are running tires on the wrong rims that is your issue, however it is wrong for you to encourage others to follow you miss steps

Load carrying tires on our trucks and trailers work best when the treads width = the wheels width. Most 265 tires have 8"-8.5" wide tread. Mounting them on a 7"-7.5" wheel isn't a wise move from a load carrying perspective. The tire at those max pressures will cause the tread to ballon, and ride the centers.
On a race vehicle we can play around with the rim widths to accpmplish different results. No biggie however a load carrying wheel/tire is a whole different matter.

This from Dunlap; (a google has much more of the same info from other sources)

Dunlap
RIM WIDTH
Correct rim width ensures flex at the designed flex point in a tire sidewall for optimum tire performance.

If the rim is too narrow, the flex point moves toward the shoulder area, creating heat buildup in the shoulder, which reduces tire life and could result in failure.

If the rim is too wide, the flex point moves towards the rim area, causing heat buildup in the lower sidewall, which reduces tire life and could result in failure.

Within the acceptable range of rim widths, one can select wider or narrower rims than the measuring rim. Selection of a wider rim, from within the approved range, (T & RA tables) stiffens the sidewall and improves handling at the expense of handling. If carried too extreme, either too narrow or too wide of a rim, it can result in uneven tread/pavement contact pressure causing uneven wear and potentially reduced traction, or increased vulnerability to bead dis-lodgement.


Thanks for the knowledgeable post and reference. I have seen two or three posters in the last two years endorsing 265's for trailers which is not good. I have also seen them on 6.5 inch GM 2500hd rims and they really roll in at the rim/bead. I do not know how a knowledgeable tire tech would mount these on narrow rims. Tires are to expensive and important to be screwing around like this.

It is not right to miss lead others about tires.


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uhhhhh why go to all that cost and hassle to run a tire that should not be there when you can buy a Goodyear G614 that will handle the weight and run just fine. Why chance it just upgrade to G and live with it......


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The 17.5 inch is not an oddball. It is a medium duty commercial truck tire that is far more available than the G614. The G614 is an RV thing and not commonly stocked. With the 17.5 inch tires, think "fleet supply" and "truck stop". Commercial trucks don't make money sitting parked. Because of that, there are a lot of businesses out there that make money by keeping them rolling. They can help you with tires when Walmart, Sears, and your local tire stores are all closed.


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I was talking about the 265/75/16 everyone is arguing about....

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This morning we stopped at the tire dealer and bought the 23580R16 load range E Tow Max Power King tire and had them mounted on the camper. We were on the road by 10:am and we got home at 6:30 this evening, everything is fine.



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I don't know,,,, but hope they work out for you....

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Dixie Flyer wrote:

This morning we stopped at the tire dealer and bought the 23580R16 load range E Tow Max Power King tire and had them mounted on the camper. We were on the road by 10:am and we got home at 6:30 this evening, everything is fine.


Now that you are done with them, maybe someone on the forum that likes them will buy them from you! I think I read that one poster was going to buy a new set before summer.

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Snow_King wrote:

JIMNLIN wrote:

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Please post where you get 7" or 7.5" wide zero offset trailer wheels for LT265/75R16 tires? Reliable tire stores should not mount a tire on a wheel that is narrower than the minimal width a tire manufacture calls for.

If you are running tires on the wrong rims that is your issue, however it is wrong for you to encourage others to follow you miss steps

Load carrying tires on our trucks and trailers work best when the treads width = the wheels width. Most 265 tires have 8"-8.5" wide tread. Mounting them on a 7"-7.5" wheel isn't a wise move from a load carrying perspective. The tire at those max pressures will cause the tread to ballon, and ride the centers.
On a race vehicle we can play around with the rim widths to accpmplish different results. No biggie however a load carrying wheel/tire is a whole different matter.

This from Dunlap; (a google has much more of the same info from other sources)

Dunlap
RIM WIDTH
Correct rim width ensures flex at the designed flex point in a tire sidewall for optimum tire performance.

If the rim is too narrow, the flex point moves toward the shoulder area, creating heat buildup in the shoulder, which reduces tire life and could result in failure.

If the rim is too wide, the flex point moves towards the rim area, causing heat buildup in the lower sidewall, which reduces tire life and could result in failure.

Within the acceptable range of rim widths, one can select wider or narrower rims than the measuring rim. Selection of a wider rim, from within the approved range, (T & RA tables) stiffens the sidewall and improves handling at the expense of handling. If carried too extreme, either too narrow or too wide of a rim, it can result in uneven tread/pavement contact pressure causing uneven wear and potentially reduced traction, or increased vulnerability to bead dis-lodgement.


Thanks for the knowledgeable post and reference. I have seen two or three posters in the last two years endorsing 265's for trailers which is not good. I have also seen them on 6.5 inch GM 2500hd rims and they really roll in at the rim/bead. I do not know how a knowledgeable tire tech would mount these on narrow rims. Tires are to expensive and important to be screwing around like this.

It is not right to miss lead others about tires.


AUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH! Ye gods, people, please READ WHAT I HAVE POSTED and THINK! I am NOT, REPEAT NOT suggesting putting 265/75R16 tires on 6.5" wide wheels! I have never done so in this thread or anywhere else!


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ExRocketScientist wrote:

The 17.5 inch is not an oddball. It is a medium duty commercial truck tire that is far more available than the G614. The G614 is an RV thing and not commonly stocked. With the 17.5 inch tires, think "fleet supply" and "truck stop". Commercial trucks don't make money sitting parked. Because of that, there are a lot of businesses out there that make money by keeping them rolling. They can help you with tires when Walmart, Sears, and your local tire stores are all closed.


Please read and respond to what I ACTUALLY TYPED, not what you want to think I typed. In the real world, a 17.5" tire is an oddball. It is used on a minuscule amount of vehicles. Been there and done that: getting one was often a day or more wait and ALWAYS expensive. Whereas, again, an LT265/75R16E is a dirt-common size, and is guaranteed to be IN STOCK at any tire shop.

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