1cowboy
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Re: 2010 Jayco Seneca 36MS
This rig has an unusual sewer line (black & gray water) discharge design: When the hose it attached to the discharge end of the line, it takes an almost 90 degree turn then turns again as it feeds down through a heavy guage PVC pipe with a screw cap on the end. This pipe is suspended under the coach and pivots so the sewer hose that snakes through it can be positioned at the dump opening.
When you're finished dumping, you push the hose back into the PVC pipe and work it back up into the bin so that the hose can be pushed far enough into the PVC pipe so a screw on cap can be put on. The cap is connected under the coach with a plastic line.
Although the tanks empty well enough, this weird design presents an awkward way to dump. It's also not very conducive to cleaning the hose after dumping.
I've tried to come up with something more simple and easier while at the same time have optimum dumping. One consideration is to cut a hole under where the sewer line terminates for hose hookup. This would allow the hose to be dropped straight down instead of making 2 turns as noted above. I could remove the heavy guage PVC stabilizing pipe that hangs underneath and make a cover for that hole.
Really don't understand why or how Jayco came up with this unusual configuration.
Anyone got a better idea?
Thanks!
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Sfla2
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have almost same on coachmen 30' except hose is attached permentrly in sewer compatrment, brought a a flush adapter at wally world o/l works real good to back flush tanks (made by camco) abt 25$
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Davehrn
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I put on a 10 foot extension and leave it connected. I then attach my regular sewer hose to the end of the extension when I hook up. That way I'm not pulling the hose through the hole... and by not disconnecting inside the wet compartment no nasty mess to wipe up... since I had it... I put a clear spacer in-between to see how effective my cleaning has been..
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az99
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I removed the outside swivel pipe and got some fittings including a clear 90ยบ . Ran it straight down and out with a quick cap. Hose connect and cleanup is easy. I just coil the hose into a 5 gal. plastic bucket after cleaning.
You are right about Jayco's design. I am sure it was all about $.
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tatest
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How or why Jayco came up with this configuration? They were copying. Middle managers, particularly in marketing, move around from company to company in the industry.
The self-storing feature is fairly common on higher price coaches and almost universal in some brands (like Coachmen, down the road from Jayco, in Middlebury). The marketing guys think it is a "feature" that you don't have to connect/disconnect and handle a separate waste hose, as it is "neatly" self stored.
Sometimes the people who actually have to use a self-stored hose don't think the idea was so clever, nor think the feature is a convenience.
I've been looking at how to build my own, so I don't have to stuff the hose back into the dump valve compartment, or store it in yet another.
Tom Test
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paulin
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Personally, I find this set-up more convenient. It drains our tanks just fine; the under coach PVC pipe semi-supports the hose and is easy to point in most any direction; no open/stinky hose ends in the storage bay; etc. Only downside is difficulty rinsing the hose and that can be overcome by using a clear plastic flush kit.
Paul
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bobm253
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I have this same setup on my 97 coachman and don't care for it. My old 91 Jamee had both tanks exiting one pipe. I was able to attach the hose, pull the black tank handle to drain the black tank. When the black tank was empty, I opened the other handle to drain the grey water tank. This worked perfect to do a good rinse on the hose. I Wonder if my current system can be modified to do this. If so, I'll change it in a second...
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