Divacat
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downtheroad wrote:Welcome to the Forum..your first post.
You have a lot going on here.
Who told you that you could safely and comfortably tow a 30 foot 9K dry toy hauler with your Tundra?
I suspect that loaded trip ready, you are a good bit over weight.
Also, a single or even double friction bar set up is not the best choice for a heavy 30 footer. There are a number of much better options.
Bottom line...my opinion, you are asking way too much from your Tundra.
Who do you think told us we could pull the 30ft TT? The dealership of course. And I will admit, we are novices and don't know everything about hauling. This is our FIRST TT purchase. WE asked as many questions as possible, but I guess we may not have asked the right ones.
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Let's back up and figure this out.
Have you had your trailer and truck to a scale to get actual weights?
This can usually be done at a local gravel yard, landscaper or someplace like that for a small fee.
Did you load the bikes as far forward in the toyhauler as possible? If they were not side by side and one was loaded in front of the other, was the heaviest one loaded in front?
Lets gets some weights from the scales and do everything you can to maximize the weight up front and go from there i trying to solve this.
Also please get the numbers from the sticker on your door and post so we know specifically what your truck is capable of. You may or may not have enough truck to pull that trailer but there's no sense jumping off the cliff till we know what the specifics are.
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My concern was he may have had the WDH setup to transfer too much of the weight towards the front of the truck and not enough on the rear axle of the truck. This would make sense if the trailer also swayed when empty. Provided nothing else is causing the sway.
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Divacat
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downtheroad wrote:Welcome to the Forum..your first post.
You have a lot going on here.
Who told you that you could safely and comfortably tow a 30 foot 9K dry toy hauler with your Tundra?
I suspect that loaded trip ready, you are a good bit over weight.
Also, a single or even double friction bar set up is not the best choice for a heavy 30 footer. There are a number of much better options.
Bottom line...my opinion, you are asking way too much from your Tundra.
I may disagree with it being overloaded. Correct me if I am wrong (and quite honestly I could be) but if it were overloaded, wouldn't the truck's performance reflect that? It pulls hill without losing speed.
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the bear II
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Factory towing capacity is 10100 with a max tongue weight of 1050 pounds.
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Divacat wrote:LoneCowboy wrote:not enough tongue weight.
two harley's probably weigh 1600lbs or more, way at the back end.
there's no weight on the tongue.
Our bikes don't weigh more than 1100 lbs overall. I have a Sportster 883 and he has a Vrod.
But even still - if the weight of the bikes are offsetting the tongue weight then that would make sense.
Assuming both bikes combined only weigh 1100 and a true 9000 dry weight for the trailer that is 10,100. A quick look at Toyota's site shows the highest tow capacity for any Tundra at 10,400. That would leave you with 300 pounds for everything else in the trailer.
In reality advertised dry weights are lower than actual dry weights.
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You may have to much for the tundra but thats not as much of the issue here imo. I agree with most putting at least 1500lbs on the rear of the toybox is the stresser. I would first do what the last post said and try without the bikes and see what goes on. Im with him and I dont think your going to get the sway. You have to get weight to the tongue somehow with the bikes in the back. I experienced the same thing with a small single axel hybrid behind my F150, the sway bar helped and also I filled the water tank when I traveled. I dont know where your fresh water tank is so dont know if that would help plus thats even more weight for your truck. I wish you luck. I know how scary that can be I have been pulling trailers for over 20years and when that little hybrid started swaying like it did I was white knuckled. Plus I had my wife who had never been in a vehicle pulling a trailer freacking out saying the camper is all over. Whatever has to happen be safe out there and get it adjusted right. Im sure you love your truck but I do think in the long run at a dry weight of 9000 plus at least 1500 in bikes your at 10500 with nothing else added for a camping/trip to sturgis or wherever.
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the bear II wrote:Factory towing capacity is 10100 with a max tongue weight of 1050 pounds.
Not knowing the exact configuration of the Tundra...I found similar numbers....so I don't understand all the talk about adjusting the load, more tongue weight ect....
This is a 9000 lb. DRY trailer (toy hauler)...sadly, and all to often the dealer told them, "Sure you can tow it, no problem."
What is the GVWR of this trailer? Guessing somewhere around 11K +. That would easily put it over tow rating AND payload.
Certainly the single friction bar is an issue...but there not the big issue.
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CincyGus wrote:Let's back up and figure this out.
Have you had your trailer and truck to a scale to get actual weights?
This can usually be done at a local gravel yard, landscaper or someplace like that for a small fee.
Did you load the bikes as far forward in the toyhauler as possible? If they were not side by side and one was loaded in front of the other, was the heaviest one loaded in front?
Lets gets some weights from the scales and do everything you can to maximize the weight up front and go from there i trying to solve this.
Also please get the numbers from the sticker on your door and post so we know specifically what your truck is capable of. You may or may not have enough truck to pull that trailer but there's no sense jumping off the cliff till we know what the specifics are.
No, we have not had it weighed. I tried to get him to stop at the CAT scales on the way home but he was so stressed out he just wanted to get it home at that point. I
The cargo area for the bikes are in the back and were loaded as far forward as possible.
I'll get the truck info and post it as soon as I can.
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Incorrect hitch or improperly set-up, improperly loaded toyhauler, or undersized tow vehicle, and possibly in your case, a combination there of. Same results towing loaded and unloaded would initially point to your hitch. If your tow vehicle is in fact capable of towing this particular rig, then you'll need to get a better weight distribution hitch with integrated sway control that is properly sized and installed. That should help, plus learning how and what to load in your toyhauler that provides the best towing experience would be the next step. We have a 32' toyhauler that we tow with a 3/4 ton GM gasser. We can load it up with over 100 gallons of water and toys with no sway issues, and other than being tongue heavy, it has no sway issues when empty either. Load up and get to a scale for real world numbers, that info will be critical in resolving your issues.
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