WV Wanderer wrote: I have an 07 Tundra 5.7 and tow a 28ft 8900 lb Dutchman trailer it was all over the place with a friction anti-sway bar. Removed it and installed twin cams to the setup. Made all the difference in the world. Steady as can be even in 25 mph. Had to make an emergency braking stop due to someone trying to pass between me and a tractor (3 side-by-side) trailer on an one ramp at intersate speeds. No sway at all and stayed under control. I suggest the duel cam system.
The Reese Dual Cam set up is needed at a minimum, as are the LT rated tires that can carry more weight. The Tundra is sitting way too high in the front and this is part of the problem as it will make the steering very light and make the truck want to wander. Air Bags will also be required IMO
It is possible to get this combo of truck and trailer stable and towing in a straight line (I've seen it done before), but it needs to be set up right. But that still doesn't get around the fact the truck will probably be overloaded. The 2007 Crew Max has a payload rating of about 1395 lbs. Just the tongue wt of that toyhauler will probably take up all the payload, or close to it. The OP needs to get the combo down to the scales and check some numbers:
The Rear Gross Axle Rating for this truck is 4150. The Gross Combined Weight Rating (max the truck and trailer combined can weigh) is 16,000 lbs.
My Trailer is 5800 dry and about 6800 fully loaded. I loaded it even heavier once for a trip up north when the daughter graduated from college. Tundra and Trailer were loaded to the max with all her stuff, ie, furniture, etc. This was the heaviest I've ever been (verified by CAT scales) weighing 13,840 combined, well under the 16,000 GCWR of my Tundra. BUT, I had 4520 on the rear axle, meaning I exceeded that rating by 370 lbs. The truck towed fine though on this 720 mile (each way) trip.
Here's the thing about the 5.7 Tundra; it's got the power to tow the OP's load just fine. But, the combo is set up wrong as noted by others above. The weight issue has very little to do with the sway problem. The sway problem is caused by having the weight distributed wrong, etc.
So what to do? Make the changes noted above, Reese Dual Cam, LT Tires, Air Bags, and get the weight distributed correctly and the front end of the truck sitting properly. However, after doing all that, you'll probably find you're overloaded, but that's something you've got to decide whether or not you want to live with.
Divacat wrote: We just bought our first TT Toy Hauler - 2012 Work and Play by Forest River. It is 30 ft long/9000 lb. dry weight. We are pulling it with a 2012 Toyota Tundra 5.7L - tow package plus we added the WDH and a sway bar on one side. First time out we loaded our bikes (two harleys) - the trailer is all over the place. We could no exceed 50 mph or the TT would sway. We are at a loss of where to start on getting control of the TT. The specs on the truck state it is rated to pull the TT. If we have a WDH and a sway bar why is it still swaying so badly when we haul it? We have only had it out the one time (loaded with bikes) and it was the most stressful experience ever. I am scared we just made a significant mistake...what should have been our dream is now a nightmare. Do we need to add a sway control to the other side of the tongue? Does that make a significant difference? I can't imagine what it would have been like to pull with no WDH or sway bar.
No way.....you will be over your trucks capacity several areas. BTW, who sold you that TT/WD setup, cause it's not right for the TT
We have a 2012 Tundra 5.7 Crew and our payload is under 1400 pounds. Those trailers, not sure which one you have, but they range from 1100 to 1200 dry tongue weight. Sorry, I don't see how anything will ever fix that setup, but I am a newbie as well.
If your dealer sold the hitch also and set it up, take it back and let them adjust things so that it tows well. This should be the dealers responsibility if they sold and set up the hitch. If the dealer can't make it tow right, have them replace the hitch and tweek everything the best as they can, then drive it and make a determination. If you can't get the towing correct, then ask the dealer what they are going to do. Be clear you were assured by the sales staff that your truck would tow this trailer safely, and if it can't insist they make it right by working with you on another trailer. They have put you in this situation, so a good dealer will be responsible.
TxTiger has a very valid point. The dealer put you in this position they need to make it right. They can get you fixed up with the proper hitch/wd combination, the one you now have isn't it. Once you get the rig properly set up you should have the tail wagging under control. Unfortunately, you may still find yourself in a situation where you have a missed matched TV/TT combo.
it would help knowing the model Work & Play you bought.
none of them are 30' long.
the only ones with a dry weight around 9000lbs., are the 30WA, the 30WR and the 30WRS, but they are all 36' long.
model numbers rarely mean the trailer's actual length.
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Divacat wrote: We just bought our first TT Toy Hauler - 2012 Work and Play by Forest River. It is 30 ft long/9000 lb. dry weight. We are pulling it with a 2012 Toyota Tundra 5.7L - tow package plus we added the WDH and a sway bar on one side. First time out we loaded our bikes (two harleys) - the trailer is all over the place. We could no exceed 50 mph or the TT would sway. We are at a loss of where to start on getting control of the TT. The specs on the truck state it is rated to pull the TT. If we have a WDH and a sway bar why is it still swaying so badly when we haul it? We have only had it out the one time (loaded with bikes) and it was the most stressful experience ever. I am scared we just made a significant mistake...what should have been our dream is now a nightmare. Do we need to add a sway control to the other side of the tongue? Does that make a significant difference? I can't imagine what it would have been like to pull with no WDH or sway bar.
No way.....you will be over your trucks capacity several areas. BTW, who sold you that TT/WD setup, cause it's not right for the TT
bikendan wrote: it would help knowing the model Work & Play you bought.
none of them are 30' long.
the only ones with a dry weight around 9000lbs., are the 30WA, the 30WR and the 30WRS, but they are all 36' long.
model numbers rarely mean the trailer's actual length.
30 WRS - you are correct - it IS 36 feet....this just keeps getting better and better.
Good lord...I am ANGRY.
Divacat wrote: We just bought our first TT Toy Hauler - 2012 Work and Play by Forest River. It is 30 ft long/9000 lb. dry weight. We are pulling it with a 2012 Toyota Tundra 5.7L - tow package plus we added the WDH and a sway bar on one side. First time out we loaded our bikes (two harleys) - the trailer is all over the place. We could no exceed 50 mph or the TT would sway. We are at a loss of where to start on getting control of the TT. The specs on the truck state it is rated to pull the TT. If we have a WDH and a sway bar why is it still swaying so badly when we haul it? We have only had it out the one time (loaded with bikes) and it was the most stressful experience ever. I am scared we just made a significant mistake...what should have been our dream is now a nightmare. Do we need to add a sway control to the other side of the tongue? Does that make a significant difference? I can't imagine what it would have been like to pull with no WDH or sway bar.
No way.....you will be over your trucks capacity several areas. BTW, who sold you that TT/WD setup, cause it's not right for the TT
30WRS
Dry Hitch Weight.............1,168 lb.
Dry Ship Weight..............8,861 lb.
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.13,168 lb.
Cargo Carrying Capacity......4,248 lb.
Exterior Length.............36 ft. 0 in.
Exterior Height.............10 ft. 10 in.
Exterior Width................TBA
Fresh Water Capacity..........80 gal.
Gray Water Capacity...........38 gal.
Black Water Capacity..........38 gal.
Awning Size...................TBAFrom Forest River Site
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