JumboJet wrote: - at 200,000 miles my diesel pickup is worth a lot more than the same truck with a gasoline engine.
You may be correct.
But the day I picked up my 155,000 mile Chevy with it's $4,700 new injectors I drove it around to the new truck department of my Chevy dealer. Asked about trading in in on a new Chevy. They drove my truck and their numbers for my diesel truck were the same as the Kelly Blue Book price for a gas truck.
Could it be that in some areas diesels are becoming a harder sell?
Not in farm country around here!
Kelly Blue Book - Suggested Retail Price for MY Truck with 200,000 miles - Zip Code 72704
5.7L V-8 Hemi $18,425
6.7L I-6 Diesel $25,725
I know people that have had expensive repair bills on gasoline engine equipped Chevrolets (my son) and I know people that have not had any expensive replacements on diesels.
My mileage varies like everyone else depending on whether I'm heavier or not and whether I'm going faster or slower and over mtns or not. 11.6 isn't too bad for a diesel, but depending on how you drive it could be radically better. Also, little things like using cruise can help. I've had friends that regularly get down in the 8-9 range for their gas engines with camper.
The people who get the best mileage are also the obstacles that you see on the interstate and highways. That's another thread, but that's the reason why they get such great mileage.
Oh, and in my area, the diesel is worth about $5600 more than a V10..."private party".
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JumboJet wrote: - at 200,000 miles my diesel pickup is worth a lot more than the same truck with a gasoline engine.
You may be correct.
But the day I picked up my 155,000 mile Chevy with it's $4,700 new injectors I drove it around to the new truck department of my Chevy dealer. Asked about trading in in on a new Chevy. They drove my truck and their numbers for my diesel truck were the same as the Kelly Blue Book price for a gas truck.
Could it be that in some areas diesels are becoming a harder sell?
Not in farm country around here!
Kelly Blue Book - Suggested Retail Price for MY Truck with 200,000 miles - Zip Code 72704
5.7L V-8 Hemi $18,425
6.7L I-6 Diesel $25,725
I know people that have had expensive repair bills on gasoline engine equipped Chevrolets (my son) and I know people that have not had any expensive replacements on diesels.
Your mileage may vary.
Your Blue Book prices are correct, BUT the Blue Book doesn't take trade in's.
Dealers have their own trade in prices based on what they think they can sell your truck for.
Lots of Stuff wrote: Dealers have their own trade in prices based on what they think they can sell your truck for.
A little bit more of a tangent... Some do, and some don't. Of course, it's always about the difference between what they give you and what they sell the other one for. I don't buy from dealers who have their "own" values. I use Edmunds true market value for new as a guideline. I've found plenty of dealers that will go to that price and also give tradein values that are listed on there.
silversand wrote: Chevy 2500HD with Vortec 6 6L gasoliner, with 1300-LB Outfitter.... There is NO economy in owning a diesel anything; only grunt.
Ohhh do I disagree! Between the lightweight truck and featherweight camper you listed, you're talking literally almost half my weight.
That'd be like me comparing a Ford Ranger with a tent and a cooler in the back to your rig.
To make that statement a fair comparison, you'd have to load up to around 13,500lbs AND push the height up to about 12 1/2 feet tall. THEN we'll see what that gasser gets for MPG.
Last year I did a trip to the Oregon coast and back. Of the 7,164 miles only about 1,000 miles was interstate. Terrain varied from the flatlands of Kansas to the mountains of Colorado.
My hand calculated mileage was 14.8 mpg and the average cost of diesel was $4.00 gallon for the trip.
2011 Chevy 3500 DRW Duramax/Allison combo hauling a 2001 Palomino Maverick 1000. Weight of camper wet is around 3500 lbs. I get a consistent 13.8 at 60 mph and 12.7 at 65 mph.
Original Poster: I have virtually the same rig with minor differences and get EXACTLY the same mileage that you report.
Mileage will depend greatly on speed (given calm wind conditions).
If you keep rpm's to 2000 rpms you will get even better mileage.
I am running a lighter in weight TC, a Lance 845 that weighs about 3,000 ready to go camping. The past summer we made a trip to Alaska with it and the 2002 Dodge Cummins we had then. Trip was 11,992 miles in length, averaged 14.43 mpg of diesel at $4.257 avg per gallon for the trip. (Canadian costs converted to US gallons and dollars)
The current Lance is about 500 lbs heavier than the previous 2001 Lance 845 we owned for 9 years. It and the Dodge made 3 round trips to Alaska from south Florida and it would average 15.1 mpg on the trips. It also had a lower roof line that had less wind resistence, IMHO. The Dodge was a standard output 235 HP turbo Cummins. The current 2008 Lance is now riding on a 2011 Chevy DMax, with 397 hp and 765 ft lbs of torque. Will be interesting to see what kind of mileage, I get with the Chevy, on long trips. Currently only have 800 miles on it.
joe b.
Stuart Florida
Formerly of Colorado and Alaska
Chevy 3500 DRW Dmax CC - Rockwood 8281 SS 5th Whl & 2008 Lance 845 TC www.pajbcooper.com web site
Alaska Trip 2011 posted
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