usmcshepherd
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All,
We are looking to go back to a Lance from our 5th wheel when I return from Afghanistan next year and are looking at either a Lance 1181 or 1191. That said, we've discussed getting back into horses as well. My question for those with large campers (11ft variety) is can you haul a horse trailer with that large of a camper? Anyone have any experience with that kind of a setup?
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You'd probably be better off with a drw. But that's a pretty common scenario.
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you rang?
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Quote:We are looking to go back to a Lance from our 5th wheel when I return from Afghanistan next year and are looking at either a Lance 1181 or 1191. That said, we've discussed getting back into horses as well. My question for those with large campers (11ft variety) is can you haul a horse trailer with that large of a camper? Anyone have any experience with that kind of a setup?
Agree with the previous comment about the dually. As to how much horse trailer you can tow, that is dependent on the distance from the receiver on the stinger and how much trailer you will need. The Lance brochure has a handy table that provides information about trailer tongue weight and trailer weights that can be accommodated as the distance from the reciever increases up to about 48 inches. There is a dramatic reduction in trailer weight capacity with the very long 11 foot campers.
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usmcshepherd
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I have a DRW Dodge 3500 now so that I've got that covered. I've read that trailer toungue weights out to 48" is only about 500-600lbs...my problem is I have no idea what the trailer tongue weight would be on a 2-3 horse aluminum trailer.
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I would suggest a living quarters 3 horse gooseneck trailer. Can make an awesome toyhauler as well as the horse trailer frame is significantly stronger built than a traditional toyhauler FW
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usmcshepherd wrote:I have a DRW Dodge 3500 now so that I've got that covered. I've read that trailer toungue weights out to 48" is only about 500-600lbs...my problem is I have no idea what the trailer tongue weight would be on a 2-3 horse aluminum trailer.
if you use a weight distributing hitch with the 48" super truss the load carrying capacity at the ball is 1200 pounds. http://www.torklift.com/t.php?w_page=supertruss
a bumper pull trailer tongue weight is usually 10-15% of the trailer weight
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usmcshepherd
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Thanks for the input from all. As we are probably going to travel the majority of the time without horses right now (small children), we will probably favor the Lance/trailer combo vice living quarters gooseneck. I did check the torklist site that Buzzcut1 recommend. The trailer I am looking at weighs less then 4k lbs so even with three horses we'd be well under 8k loaded so that setup would work perfectly.
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bka0721
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I vote for the 1191, as it has the side entrance. Obviously, you can unhook the trailer, but it sure makes it easier to have the side door. Especially with those pesky kids that seem to need to get in and out, in and out, in and out of a camper.
There are lots of discussions on rear hitches and the types you might need. A simple search will provide lots of helpful information on that topic.
My 14' trailer is over 5k, on the axles, but that weight does not shift. (Picture in signature). The question might be better in how well your transmission and rear gearing might be prepared for pulling/carrying your extra weight and the limiting factors your set up currently possesses.
I still have a Living Quarters 48 ft Gooseneck trailer and the limiting accessibility of that trailer, convinced me a truck camper was the best direction for me to move towards, for my adventures.
Thanks again for your service and we all look forward to your safe return.
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You are crossing over into diesel territory with a large and heavy camper pulling a 8,000 lb. load. A gas engine with a 4.10 rear end will be near its limit with this gross weight but you will have 4000-5000 lbs. to spare with a new 1-ton. With a live load the control issues are as you know different then with a static load like a boat or TT.
I would also want the exhaust braking that is only available with a diesel engine. Good review of 2012 trucks pulling trailers in tests at Car & Drive, and 2011 1-tons pulling 19K loads (but with nothing in the box) at mrtrailer.com.
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