boosTT
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CavemanCharlie wrote:I understand the gas mileage factor but, if your reasoning for going back wards to a pop up is because of size then your TT is too big.
How much gas are you going to save to jusify $1500+ on a pop-up? I've upgraded from a popup to travel trailer and the only thing I miss about the popup was the ability to "park" it. I could unhitch the popup and then hand push it where I wanted in the campsite.
Popups have lots of windows. I'm not sure if thats an advantage. It seams like the drapes where always closed on mine and TT's have ac.
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mike54
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I thought at one time to get a seasonal site for the TT and buy a a-liner or a small 16' TT for vacations and side trips. That didn't happen so I just happily tow my 34'TT everywhere I want to go 
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ktmrfs
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we have our 35' TT for normal outings. And we have a 14' cargo trailer with full living quarters, hauls 3 bikes and sleeps 2. 40 gallon holding tank, fresh water, AC,furnace, microwave, kitchen, stove, fridge shower etc. mostly used as a bike hauler/toyhauler, but when we want to to go remote campgrounds we use the 14'. So not quite popup/TT but kinda along the same idea.
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Chock Full o' Nuts
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We recently sold our big Niagara pop-up and bought a 25ft TT. I don't regret it at all! The set-up was much more time & energy consuming with the Pop-up. Now that we have the TT we find it much easier to just pick up and go camping for a weekend. We'll never go back!
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rfryer
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I bought a Coleman PU in 1978 and used it exclusively until 1989 when I bought a 16' TT. I then used both until 2002 when I gave the PU to a son. Before the TT I used the PU to travel all over the country, mostly in the west, though. After the TT I used it mainly for hunting and scouting trips - I could easily pull it with my 1973 Bronco - and for shorter trips to the mountains. The TT was mostly used for the longer trips.
The TT was small enough I could get it most places I took the PU so accessibility wasn't a big factor in which I used. The gas mileage penalty was negligible with the PU, I take roughly a 3-4 mpg hit with the TT. I still miss the PU and even the DW occasionally says she would like to have it back, it gave more of a "camping" feel to the trip.
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smokedummy
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downtheroad wrote:Pop ups are more of a hassle to set up, take down, (have to be set up to load) then down again to tow..then up again to unload and to dry the tents before they are stored...
You will be able to make "quick weekend trips" quicker with your TT. (this from experience of owning both).
That verifies what i was thinking (I have never owned a PUP). I visited with some folks at a state park recently who rented a screen shelter for their camping because they thought it was too much of a hassle to use their PUP for just a weekend.
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CincyGus
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As someone that sold their PU to buy a TT, here's my 2 cents.
A popup does save you some gas and can be towed by a smaller TV.
As far as being able to put a popup in a smaller space, not really once you pull the beds out. My 23' TT will fit anywhere I could put the 12' popup once you consider the beds were King and Queen and added a good 10' to the length.
Less ammendities in the popup and more setup time along with the above mentioned pre and post trip opening and setup to get things in and out of it and for drying time if it happens to be damp or raining when you fold it up to leave the campground.
I think you will find out that while it saves you some gas, the quick part won't be true when you factor in the extra setup time to pack/unpack/and dry the tenting. I will and do gladly give up 4-5 mpg for the hook and go method of camping along with the 15 minute unload that I perform when I return that the TT gives me over the PU
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rfryer
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smokedummy wrote:downtheroad wrote:Pop ups are more of a hassle to set up, take down, (have to be set up to load) then down again to tow..then up again to unload and to dry the tents before they are stored...
You will be able to make "quick weekend trips" quicker with your TT. (this from experience of owning both).
That verifies what i was thinking (I have never owned a PUP). I visited with some folks at a state park recently who rented a screen shelter for their camping because they thought it was too much of a hassle to use their PUP for just a weekend.
I see these comments often and it sort of baffles me. With my old all metal lightweight Coleman I could routinely be setup and in the PU within 10 minutes of pulling into a site. It takes me at least as long and maybe a bit more to level and setup my TT. The same supplies that stay in my TT stayed in my PU and the same were removed. If wet, it was opened that evening at another cg and it was opened when I got home to unload and could dry.
Granted many new PU's I see are bigger and heavier than my TT and I just have to conclude they are a TT with canvas and must be a bugger to set up and not something I'd want. I haven't kept up with the PU market and don't know if there's anything out there similar to my old Coleman.
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boosTT
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Yes, you can "setup" a popup in 10 minutes, but the 10 minutes does not include putting pillows on the beds, TV in place, unzipping windows, etc. And popup awnings are the biggest pain to setup. I would guess it took me 1 hour to setup and 2 hours to take down/clean my old popup. Takes about 1/3 of that using my Travel Trailer.
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Bonefish
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You will still need to carry chairs, dishes, clothing, bedding, grill, fishing poles & ice chest. Then you will still make a run to the store for that one important item you forgot in the TT. Besides having to take your shower item to get cleaned up. We enjoyed our PUP when we had not been used to the comforts of the TT. I like having the bathroom for the middle of night. To me it would take the same amount of time setting up either one. How far would you be going for a fast weekend? It takes 3 hours for us to get to a state park or COE. The older I get the more comfort for me & DH.
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