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Posted: 05/11/12 10:00am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

2003 Dodge 2500, Firestone Ride-Rite air bags, Hellwig sway bar for the rear, Rancho 9000xl shocks, Nitto 285-70-17 126r weight rating. Camper is 2005 Arctic Fox 990s, Generator is Honda eu2000i. Wet weight is around 11,200. 4900lbs on the front, 6300 on the rear axle last time I weighed the truck.
No issues with drive-ability, my wife and I frequently share driving duties and there are no complaints.


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Northernford wrote:

Hi,
I have a 2011 f350 SRW shortbed with a 4 inch lift and 35 Inch tires. The rig a carry is a 2009 northern lite 8'5 q lite. That is the dream camper. I have also towed my 23' custom weld aluminum boat and it does awesome. My weight with a wet camper, wet boat and fuel tank of diesel is about 13,000#. Yes it is over the GVWR by about 3,000# but it is perfect. I have airbags, torklift stable loads and just be on the safe side a helwig sway bar. Amazing combination.


It looks like you are counting the entire weight of the boat and trailer in your GVWR . For GVWR you should include the truck , the camper with gear/fluids/passengers , and the tongue weight only. If you include the boat and trailer it's GCWR . What does the 13000# represent?


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Because one of our main objectives with our TC was operating on the sand on Assateague Island, a barrier island along the Atlantic coast of Maryland and Virginia, we are required to use a SRW, self-contained, 4X4, by US Park Service Regulation. Our LB, Crew Cab, F-350, Diesel, with I think , the Camper Package, has carried our Lance 1121 for now, 90,000 trouble free miles, from the Florida Keys to Alaska, and on several other cross-country trips. Among the upgrades that were added are: first and foremost, 19.5" "H" rated wheels and tires that have 5000 lbs rating each, and also, air bags and Rancho 9000 Adjustable Shocks along with heavy duty bump stops. On our Alaska trip, fully loaded, we weighed a little under 14,000 lbs. When the truck was delivered it had an increased load capability of 1000 lbs. for which we paid $1000.00 extra. I think that it was the "Camper Upgrade". If you go to- You Tube, Living the Lance Life, we are 3 of 4, you will see our rig, with which we have experienced so much of this beautiful land, safely and comfortably. We learned that the 19.5" tires, which are steel reinforced delivery truck tires, do not"Air Down" which is required on the sand of Assateague. We have a set of Nitto Dune Grapplers that we use for over sand travel and on the 150 mile trip to the beach from our home.

We also, on advice from Mike at Extreme Campers of N.C., upgraded our brake pads to Performance Friction Pads, which he likened to the quality that NASCAR uses, Mke was a Nascar Tech in the past.

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I am carrying my Palomino 1000SLLB TC on a 2004 1T Dodge CTD long bed Quadcab SRW. When I received the TC I immediately weighed the combo and found that the TC actually weighed 3200# as delivered and of that, 2800# went over the rear end. I was 400# over the truck's GVWR. I was 600# under the rear axle stock GAWR but wanted more help. The AAM 11.5" rear axle is rated for 10,140# so I was well under that rating.

I replaced the wheels with Rickson 19.5" wheels and 245/80.19.5 Firestones to keep the speedo and the tire diameters the same. I keep the tires at 95 PSI and am rated to carry 6800# on them now. Also I can still use the Dodge stock spare for any wheel if I need to.

I also replaced the standard front wheel disk brake pads with commercial HD pads to help when I need to stop.

I already had Timbrens ( www.timbren.com ) on the truck and added Stable Load bump stops to carry the load on the outside spring packs. I also added a Helwig "Big Wig" anti sway bar to help with sway. I didn't really have a sway problem but I have not driven in a really windy conditions yet.

So I am over the truck's rating as purchased but it is not the same truck as it was then. I had a new 2002 Dodge 3/4T truck that I traded with 7800 miles to get the 1T truck. It was a good choice then but this truck now has only 36,000 miles and I am not ready to take a bath again. Beefing it up to do what it needs to do was a good option for me.

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2011 Palomino Maverick 1000SLLB on a 2004 Dodge Quadcab CTD Ram3500 SRW long bed equipped with Timbren springs, Stable Load bump stops, Rickson 19.5" wheels/"G" range tires and a Helwig "Big Wig" rear anti sway bar.


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Thanks again everyone. It is good to hear why people have and what they have done to their trucks to carry the load.

sirdrakejr,

I do have a question for you. I have been looking on the Dodge site trying to build a truck but it seems to crash all the time. However, I was able to print their tow chart that gives the GVWR and GAWR, from and back. It seems with the new Dodges, they have reduced their axle ratings as a 3500 SRW rear axle has a GAWR of 6,200 (9,350 w/ DRW). Is the "AAM 11.5" rear axle" standard on your truck? It appears to be almost twice the rear GAWR as the new trucks and is even rated high than the DRW. Even my 1999 rear GAWR is higher than Dodge being rated at 6,830#. The current Fords are rated at 7,280#.


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Robert,
For my year model of truck and other years since, the 11.5" AAM rear end was rated at 10,140#. I called AAM and asked about it since many rear end axles are rerated differently depending on whether it was a DRW or SRW. Mine is rated the same regardless.

I don't know who makes the new axles for Dodge, but when you find out, you can go to the website for that manufacturer and see how they are rated. You have to remember that the GAWR given when you buy a truck is NOT based on the axle but the tires, wheels and springs/suspension. The axles are usually much stronger and limited by the tires, wheels, etc. My truck rear end GAWR was rated at 6830# stock because the load range "E" tires were rated at 3415#@80PSI. When I replaced them with Ricksons, that limit was removed.


Look here for more:
http://www.dodge.com/en/search_results/?&q=ram%203500&start=0

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_Truck#Axles

Frank

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Thanks Frank. Great info to know.

From what I can find out, my truck's reanend is a Sterling 10.5 and is rated at:

Normal GAW range (lb.): 9,750 (single/dual wheel)
Nominal GCW rating (lb.): 26,000 (single/dual wheel)

I will be up-grading my wheels and tires to 19.5" (bunch of reading on that subject - steel vs Aluminum!!!) and putting in airbags.

For those who installed sway bars, did you replace the factory bars or just add them. My truck has them, both front and rear and they seemed to work well when hauling my Elkhorn when I had it.

Thanks again!

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Posted: 05/11/12 03:35pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I would venture a guess that many many many TCs are overweight. A few grossly overweight.

I was there once. 2001 Dodge CTD 2500. Payload 1800#. Really? I put an 8' Caribou on it that was 2600# dry. It handled just fine with no mods.

I am on the other side of the line now with my current set up. 1000# UNDER payload. But I do a lot of off road.


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My 2002 3/4T Dodge had a "camper package" and came with a front and rear anti sway bar. My 2004 has the trailer package and did not come with anti sway bars. I added the rear Hewlwig "Big Wig" anti sway bar. Even when empty I can feel the difference in cornering.
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(quote=John & Angela)Good morning. In BC the weight sheet a dealer fills out when loading a trailer or camper on a vehicle clearly states the vehicle can not be loaded beyond its GVW. (/quote)
GVW realm in BC can be the sum of the vehicle manufactures axle ratings or it can be a lessor amount the owner chooses according to BC folks that have posted their trucks registered GVW.
Paragraph 4 at the bottom of the 19.05 reg eliminates the GVWR as the controling factor in loads a truck can carry.

BC Motor Vehicle Act Regulations

Weight scales:

19.05 (1) The driver of a vehicle on a highway, when so required by a peace officer, shall

(a) stop the vehicle at the time and place specified by such peace officer for the purpose of weighing the whole or part thereof by means of stationary or portable scales, measuring the dimensions of the vehicle and load, measuring and inspecting the tires thereon, inspecting the load carried, or for any other purpose under this Act or regulations,

(b) drive the vehicle to the nearest public stationary or portable scales for the purpose of weighing the vehicle and load,.....

(snipped for length)

(4) The gross weight of any vehicle or combination of vehicles shall be the sum of the individual gross axle weights of all the axles of the vehicle or combination of vehicles.

(en. B.C. Reg. 68/71, s. 5; am. B.C. Regs. 413/97, App. 1, s. 11; 135/2003, s. 6.)
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No1Hunter
Dodge started using the 11.5" AAM axle in '03 on the 2500/3500 SRW and DRW trucks. The 2500 is rated at 6000-6010 RAWR due to the small spring packs and 3042 lb LT tires/wheels.

For some reason Dodge has always rated the 3500 SRW at 6200 RAWR vs GM 3500 SRW at 7050 RAWR with the same exact axle. Again the limiting factor is that small 6200 lb spring pack/3195 rated tires and wheels.
Try Dodge Body Builders Guide for lots of '12 Ram truck tech specs and '04 to '10 Dodge trucks.

The 11.5" AAM axle is a big tough unit. Upgrading springs/wheels and tires is popular with experienced truck owners for carrying heavier loads with the 3500 SRW Dodge truck and also many F250/2500 truck owners.


"good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" ............ Will Rogers

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