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Deb and Ed M

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Posted: 05/22/12 08:47am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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I find a consistent way to tell the difference between those breeding for money and those breeding to improve the breed is whether or not the breeder is keeping a pup for themselves.

If the breeder is in it to improve the breed, then you would expect them to have enough confidence in their own breeding choices to keep what they designed to be an improvement on the dogs they already have.


I understand what you're saying - but let's assume I own a huge breeding facility and am cranking out puppies like popcorn. I too will keep a pup or two around since I am surely wearing out my breeding stock by breeding EVERY single heat cycle.....

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"Oh, I'm sorry client of several months, I WOULD be doing this thing for you for several thousand in profit, but I had to promise SIX MONTHS AGO that I'd spend this particular day driving to Kalamazoo."
This argument does not hold water.
How many people here schedule with employers/customers to be on vacation on certain dates?

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Posted: 05/22/12 10:34am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Deb and Ed M wrote:

BCSnob wrote:



I find a consistent way to tell the difference between those breeding for money and those breeding to improve the breed is whether or not the breeder is keeping a pup for themselves.

If the breeder is in it to improve the breed, then you would expect them to have enough confidence in their own breeding choices to keep what they designed to be an improvement on the dogs they already have.


I understand what you're saying - but let's assume I own a huge breeding facility and am cranking out puppies like popcorn. I too will keep a pup or two around since I am surely wearing out my breeding stock by breeding EVERY single heat cycle.....
Do you really think it's economical for this hypothetical high volume breeder to keep a pup from EVERY breeding? It speaks loud and clear to me what the breeder thinks about a litter if they will not be keeping a pup for themselves.

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Oh, I guess I didn't figure that you'd only give them a single day when they could pick up the pup. That does make a difference!

Usually when I do something like that, I look at my schedule and work it in where I have a couple of days free. Which should happen within a given week period or maybe two weeks. In the past, the people here who have gone to pick up dogs have worked with the breeder to find a mutually agreeable pick-up date, so I sort of figured that was the norm.

Not that I wouldn't consider any of mine worth 5K.

If someone doesn't have two days off in a two week period, then I personally would wonder if their life is in a place where they're ready for raising a brand new puppy.


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There's also the alternative... if you're looking for one... of having the new owner fly in, meet you near the airport to take possession of the pup and do the paperwork, and then fly back with the pup. That's often as cheap and sometimes cheaper than sending an animal alone, anyway, and if you would take the pup to the airport to ship, it should be no more trouble for you.

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BCSnob wrote:

skylos wrote:

"Oh, I'm sorry client of several months, I WOULD be doing this thing for you for several thousand in profit, but I had to promise SIX MONTHS AGO that I'd spend this particular day driving to Kalamazoo."
This argument does not hold water.
How many people here schedule with employers/customers to be on vacation on certain dates?


You're quite right, it wasn't a good example. And I tightened it too much on 'this particular day'. tens of thousands and this month might be a better phrasing.

If there's an alternative to potentially costing unquantifiable opportunity, those who survive on opportunity are going to opt in that direction. They have no intention of rejecting the puppy after driving all that way - so the end outcome whether its couriered/transported or picked up is identical. Its merely a mode of life and commitment making designed to increase success.

As an example, if I was there to answer the phone, get onsite, and land the contract - while my competition was (in cancun/buying a puppy/attending a convention/skiing in aspen) - therefore, I am more successful. Being in the right place at the right time DOES require being there.

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So what you're saying is, you're never totally away from work (even when you are on vacation) otherwise there will be lost opportunities.

Thank doG, my work is in a lab which means I really can't take my work home.

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BCSnob wrote:

So what you're saying is, you're never totally away from work (even when you are on vacation) otherwise there will be lost opportunities.

Thank doG, my work is in a lab which means I really can't take my work home.


Yup, many people in the world operate that way, and they make decisions based on that mental structure - hence the reluctance to commit to long drives and the attractiveness of buying dogs on the internet.

There are advantages to working a wage/shift job where your responsibilities end when the hour hand comes around. The compensation isn't usually as good though there are exceptions.

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skylos wrote:

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There are advantages to working a wage/shift job where your responsibilities end when the hour hand comes around. The compensation isn't usually as good though there are exceptions.




What? How in the world is that comment relevant to this topic?


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CatandJim wrote:

skylos wrote:

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There are advantages to working a wage/shift job where your responsibilities end when the hour hand comes around. The compensation isn't usually as good though there are exceptions.




What? How in the world is that comment relevant to this topic?


Maybe since the thread's about regulating internet dog sales, the comment is meant to say that selling dogs over the internet is more profitable than having a regular job, therefore....something??????


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