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Bearhawk

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Posted: 05/14/12 03:01pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Okay, here is a question of reliability and faith in a vehicle. Out of curiosity I wonder how many here would keep the faith with a vehicle and how many would dump and run. Like all things it boils down to personal opinions, but seeing as I am not camping these days, might as well play on the computer.

On May 4th my 08 F350 had a message of "Stop Safely Now" pop up, as I got the vehicle to the roadside it stalled out. With the help of a dealer I was able to limp to my destination by a process of wait 60mins, clear codes, re-start. Drive for 45 to 60 minutes and repeat.
On Sunday the 45 mins shrunk to 25 mins and eventually gave up at a dealer and left the truck, and fetched another to get myself, camper, and canoe home. That dealer was not able to get it to perform on road test and deciphered the following codes:

P242D Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor Circuit High Bank 1 Sensor 3
P242B Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor Circuit Range/Performance Bank 1 Sensor 3
P2002 Diesel Particulate Filter Efficiency Below Threshold Bank 1

Only the P2002 code existed after the work was done, but they reprogrammed the PCM.

After picking it up 20 mins later it died. Dropped off at yet another dealer, but they cannot work on it until June, so it is getting towed back to the original dealer to get looked at.
Still under Powertrain and emissions warranty for about another year.

So would you still trust your truck after it left you stranded?


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Depends on what they find. It may be as simple as rodents getting to wires or the need for a service bulletin. It would also depend on whether they (and you) are certain they fixed it. I certainly wouldn't trade it in just because it broke down once.
I've learned not to talk myself into purchases like that - it just isn't smart in the long run IMHO. However, if it continued to have the same kind of issue pop up then I would seriously start considering trading it in.


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Posted: 05/14/12 03:09pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Under warranty and they can't get to it till June????
My wheel would be squeeking really loud. What's up with the Ford warranties lately. They sure did take care of warranty issues back in 2004-2007.
I'd keep it unless it becomes a habit.


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Thats a tough call. Once it is repaired I think (maybe) I would give it another chance. How much faith do you have in the dealers diesel technician? That may be a concern. They are complicated pieces of machinery.


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Posted: 05/14/12 03:16pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Did you mod the vehicle?

Use a tuner?

Run unapproved additives? Biodiesel above factory maximum?

Do proper maintenance with factory spec oils, filters, etc. and have the documentation to prove it?

The codes are indicating a plugged DPF, plugged beyond a certain level, it may be time to replace the DPF.

On commercial trucks, the DPF can sometimes be cleaned "off truck".

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Remember, REAL troubleshooting skills these days seem to be quite rare.
If the computer can't "see" it, there must not be a problem, is the attitude seemingly common in some shops. OK, MANY shops!
With the cost of trucks these days, I would fix it and run it till it falls apart, or if I got disgusted enough with it, I would trade it for an '01-'06 Dodge CTD.
But, that's just me.
Good luck.


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Posted: 05/14/12 03:36pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

You probably have to fix it (under warranty) to trade it --- assume it was not modded.

If I were in your shoes, I would run it to 7 months from warranty expiry (powertrain), and give the Ford 6.7 / GM Duramax fuel pump issue to settle out.

Then trade.

Don't like owning orphans like the 6.4

Not enough units in field, and no more development money is going into that thing.

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Posted: 05/14/12 03:37pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

While it is still under warranty, I'd keep it. You might reconsider that when the warranty runs out though.


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Posted: 05/14/12 03:49pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Anything can leave you stranded once. Repeat offenders are more worrisome. Not any fun to be stranded due to mechanical problems, especially with something in tow.

I would probably keep it until warranty runs out and see if the problem happens again. If it does, it'd be on the auction block.


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Posted: 05/14/12 04:49pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The problem is not one of the guys on this post know they will not need a tow tomorrow or next week. hard to know what can happen.
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