tonyandkaren
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We bought something like this for our four year old daughter when we camped in a Volkswagen Vanagon. It was strapped around the top portion of the fold down couch to attach it securely and she could lay down on the seat and sleep. Fortunately she was wearing it because we were reared ended which caused quite a bit of damage to the van.The hit was hard enough that she would have been air born if she hadn't been strapped in. She didn't get injured at all. This was way back in 1976 so it's probably not manufactured any more and I doubt that it would pass the safety codes. I'll look around on the internet and see if I can find it.
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I think your idea has merit, however, the problem is the dinettes like mentioned by someone else are made of light weight materials. Not designed for a collision. Your idea would have to include a design for a modular dinette and seat belt unitized unit. The current available dinettes could use some radical redesign anyway. Most of them are too small, made cheaply, are pretty ugly.
A little out of the box thinking would be welcome to that design.
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wny_pat
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The only safe place in a Class A for any car seat is in the copilot's seat. The only two seats in a Class A that are tested and certified as crash worthy under Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards are the two front seats. Winnebago says that their "BenchMark" dinette seating is safe for car seats, but I do not know that it is certified as crash worth. The key here is "crash worthy" because so many of the dinette bench seats are made of very flimsy material and would not hold up during a serious accident and you would have a car seat come loose. Some have mounted a "copilot's seat" behind the front copilot's seat and attached seat belts thru the floor to the frame. Have even seen two of them attached that way. That way you have a solid attachment on a properly certified seat.
One time when we let my son take my older class A, I removed the two barrel seats for the dining table and strapped the child seats right to the floor there, There were already manufacturer installed seat belts which were used to secured the two barrrel type seats.
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mpfireman wrote:Talking about seat belts, What about those many thousands of children transported by school buses every day around our nation? Are they belted in? If so, very few and far between have this option. Seat belts do save lives, we just have to use common knowledge when applying this practice. Thus any attempt to save additional lives is noteworthy.
School buses are totally built different than a MH or car. That steel frame between each window goes completely around the entire bus from the frame on one side to the other. You effectively have that many roll bars on a bus. The seats are now higher than ever to prevent bouncing around. Bus seats are 39" wide and are to seat 3 students. Each student gets 13". There is no room for belts or buckles. Unless you have Kindergarten they are packed in like sardines. School buses that have seat belts are typically used for special needs students. I do not want belts on a normal bus because the buckles get used as weapons.
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Be very careful in your attempt to design a safety device. You could end up doing much more harm than good. A belt in the wrong place (as a person sleeps could move) might end up breaking the passengers neck.
You can be sure that millions (billions?) of dollars has gone into the safest, best restraint system that is functional and easy to use.
Your intent is very good but I think I'd rather just insist that the passengers learn to sleep sitting up or staying awake while in motion and of course buckled up.
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bsinmich wrote:mpfireman wrote:Talking about seat belts, What about those many thousands of children transported by school buses every day around our nation? Are they belted in? If so, very few and far between have this option. Seat belts do save lives, we just have to use common knowledge when applying this practice. Thus any attempt to save additional lives is noteworthy.
School buses are totally built different than a MH or car. That steel frame between each window goes completely around the entire bus from the frame on one side to the other. You effectively have that many roll bars on a bus. The seats are now higher than ever to prevent bouncing around. Bus seats are 39" wide and are to seat 3 students. Each student gets 13". There is no room for belts or buckles. Unless you have Kindergarten they are packed in like sardines. School buses that have seat belts are typically used for special needs students. I do not want belts on a normal bus because the buckles get used as weapons.
50 years driving a school bus. I remember red, white & blue school buses.
Seat belts are an additional safety measure. No seat belts is your opinion, but just look up fatal Accidents/ School Buses. Enough said.
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mpfireman wrote:bsinmich wrote:mpfireman wrote:Talking about seat belts, What about those many thousands of children transported by school buses every day around our nation? Are they belted in? If so, very few and far between have this option. Seat belts do save lives, we just have to use common knowledge when applying this practice. Thus any attempt to save additional lives is noteworthy.
School buses are totally built different than a MH or car. That steel frame between each window goes completely around the entire bus from the frame on one side to the other. You effectively have that many roll bars on a bus. The seats are now higher than ever to prevent bouncing around. Bus seats are 39" wide and are to seat 3 students. Each student gets 13". There is no room for belts or buckles. Unless you have Kindergarten they are packed in like sardines. School buses that have seat belts are typically used for special needs students. I do not want belts on a normal bus because the buckles get used as weapons.
50 years driving a school bus. I remember red, white & blue school buses.
Seat belts are an additional safety measure. No seat belts is your opinion, but just look up fatal Accidents/ School Buses. Enough said. School bus seats are designed differently than they use to be to prevent injuries during a accident.
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Please point out the roll cage and better reinforced seats!
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