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Posted: 05/20/12 06:35pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I own a 2011 Chevrolet 3500HD Crew Cab Long Bed LTZ with single rear wheels. If I switch to the doolie wheels and tires out back, do I now have a big doolie with the same towing and hauling capacity? Are there any axle/frame/drivetrain or any other diferences between a Big Doolie and my 3500HD SRW? I'm not worried about the doolie bed fitting, I want an aluminum utility bed (lighter weight).

Anybody got any ideas?

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Yes, with the dually you have the same capacity.

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I am by no means the weight police...you are correct in that mechanically its just a rear end and fender change, perhaps you may have to lift the truck but no big deal...

Trouble is, you haven't changed your door sticker...


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Most aluminum flatbed/utility bodies are still heavier than the fiberglass standard pickup bodies. Reality is, you will still be heavier in the end with a aluminum body.

As far as gvwr goes, some say you can not change the door sticker, others know better, ie if you find the right body manufacture, chassis upfitter, they CAN and will change the gvwr if approriate items are added etc.

Reality is, you will lose some performance with a dually, as you will be turning more tires and wt ie additional drivetrain loss. The only thing you will gain, is potentially the payload part of the equation, which it sounds like you want. You could also go to some 19.5 SW tires, and potentially not have the amount of drive train loss as duals would do, and still have more payload at the end of the day!

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...........and then there is the spare tire problem.


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Your 2011 3500 should have a pretty good RAWR as it is. The hauling or towing number won't change much (subtract the weight) and that's it. Where you'll gain is payload amount with the extra 2 tires. With 4 tires on the rear axle you'll be able to carry your full AAM axle rating of 9350(IIRC) . The dual rears will support roughly a 6k pound load of pin weight and stuff.


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Turtle n Peeps wrote:

...........and then there is the spare tire problem.


LOL
Thanks for reminding me to check it, forgot I had one
Or you could go this route



Must work really well with the stout front ends on a Dodge

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Can't really gain load capacity with spacers / adapters. Those only add stability, and only id you use a rear anti-roll bar under there, too. Gotta change the whole axle assembly, the dually version is wider.
Since you're swapping anyway, you can do a Dana 80, which has ratings up to 11,000#


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2oldman wrote:

Yes, with the dually you have the same capacity.


I wouldn't worry about a silly door sticker..It doesn't make it tow any better.

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I have a similar truck. Mine has more payload than I need.

If I needed more payload I would get 19.5" wheels and have a good spring shop beef up my spring pack. It won't change my sticker, but it will make the truck very capable.


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