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niftypkg

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Posted: 05/21/12 04:56pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Need to replace two broken Bargman running lights. The old ones have the base center hole with the two + wires. These have the square base with the 3 sides.(1993 Sunlite) The new ones do not. Doubt if I can buy the original to make life easier. No room to pull both wires through. Possible to cut a short + lead, splice and run that through. Any one with a better idea? Different manufacture?

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Posted: 05/21/12 05:50pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Pictures?

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I'm not getting the picture...I replaced all my Bargman runners a couple of years ago, in my case with LED's. The new lights have two wires, just like the old ones.

Forgive my density, but- what's the question, exactly?


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Francesca Knowles wrote:

I'm not getting the picture...I replaced all my Bargman runners a couple of years ago, in my case with LED's. The new lights have two wires, just like the old ones.

Forgive my density, but- what's the question, exactly?


That's what I was wondering. I replaced all of mine with LEDs as well. Mine were "Truck-Lite" brand though.

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Thought someone might have run into the same problem. The Al.trim where the light mounts has a center hole that two + wires come through. The new base is a different configuration that blocks that center hole. I could squeeze a spliced wire throught but I don't want to do any wiring. Any suggestions? Thought someone might suggest a different light with a center hole. I can't find the old style on the internet.

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Drill, baby, drill!

Always a good solution when the holes don't match.

I know some places that supply replacement parts for older units- if you post a pic or part name/number, I might be able to tell you where to find replacements that fit better.

I see another problem, though...GROUND!

Your description of "two + wires " leads me to think you're talking about in-and-out connections for lights in the same series.

I'll bet your old lights relied for ground by way of their attachment to the unit- is that right? Since mine's a fiberglass unit, ground was originally supplied by connection to the trailer ground system, which made my changeout easier since most newer lights all ground that way.

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niftypkg wrote:

Thought someone might have run into the same problem. The Al.trim where the light mounts has a center hole that two + wires come through. The new base is a different configuration that blocks that center hole. I could squeeze a spliced wire throught but I don't want to do any wiring. Any suggestions? Thought someone might suggest a different light with a center hole. I can't find the old style on the internet.


Try Napa.

Do they happen to look like this? Light

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Francesca you nailed it.The two wires carry the + to all the lamps. They connect together and provide 12v to the light at the center hole. The ground is made by a rivet that holds the base to the Al channel. Problem is that the hole in the channel is blocked by this Bargman knockoff. The package is labled Bargman 34-99-001 made by CEQUENT El. That IS a Bargman number. The link, sqip2000, I looked at but it is not the same base. I looked at today Products I'll try NAPA tomorrow. If not I can drill another hole just for the wire.

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I think I'm getting the picture- does the back of the new light look like the one at this link?

Sounds like you've already bought your replacements, but....there's a single-wire version here that grounds the same way as the ones you're replacing. (See video at that link)

And it's got LED's, which I think is a real improvement for markers.

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Yes that is the one Francesca and that is what I bought. To match the two holes needed to wire that one I made a template with paper thin alunimum using the existing mounting holes as reference. I needed the template to mark new holes and drill for the wires. Done!

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