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Posted: 05/23/12 01:54pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I just chatted with one of our technicians, he was telling me about the local BG rep telling him about the HPFP failures on the 6.7L diesel. Apparently, the local BG reps just had a conference where the issue was discussed. BG will be marketing a product specifically for this issue. I got a sample of additives to try as the BG rep knows I track every tank (mpg) with an app on my phone.

I'm testing the 244 diesel injector cleaner then some additives that are supposed to add lubricity to the fuel. The BG rep told our technician that Ford locally (Western Canada) is being very sticky with any HPFP failures. If any are brought in, a regional rep from Ford has to inspect the failed part before warranty will be authorized, and there is one current tale of woe sitting in the shop. Failed HPFP, a claim of a small amount of rust in the pump, warranty denied, $14,000 repair bill.

The BG rep says the Ford dealer will be selling a case of BG additive with every oil change (included in the price) that will be suggested to be used in every tank. The BG additive is "DFC".

I'm not a big user of fuel additives, but since this was all given to me, I will use each as directed and report back to the BG rep and you guys.


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Good info and now sets the stage for positioning...

#1, what about those who bought & used their 6.7's way before this new additive?
#2, what is in that additive?
#3, do they think they have reset the clock on the 6.7 or the HPFP?
#4, is this stuff backwards compatible with the dual DLC coatings?
#5, They need to explain why "small amount of rust" is the basis for warranty denial?
#5a Then they need to define what 'small amount of rust' means, as to some on
this forum...I'd guess scales falling off the base material...to some who would
say discoloration meets that vague and ambiguous definition
#6 IF this does solve it, then they nailed the root cause and must
'out' that information, but if telling on their 'bad' positioning...it
will take a class action or a regulatory agency to force them to out it
#7 Anyone know if the NHTSA know about this? They should not add it
to their investigation and reference the above bullets

Ford/Bosch/etc needs to keep their eye on the big picture ball, as these band aides
all stack up and they better all line up in their direction.

Helter-skelter band aides just confirm their cluelessness in what the root cause(s) is (are)


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I can't answer any of your questions, all I know is what I was told.

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Keep us informed IB


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ROTFLMAO

I smell something FISHY coming too.

Wonder if any e-mail's going around between Bosch and Navstar

I'm certain if I owned a new stinger I'd be using the additive.

Good grief $14k for a fuel system. Might be cheaper to just replace the entire engine.


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45Ricochet wrote:

gmcsmoke wrote:

In before NewsW


ROTFLMAO

I smell something FISHY coming too.

Wonder if any e-mail's going around between Bosch and Navstar

I'm certain if I owned a new stinger I'd be using the additive.

Good grief $14k for a fuel system. Might be cheaper to just replace the entire engine.


Yup, I would be dropping a Cummins in that bad boy.......The guy at my work is doing just that right now. He found a ford with a blown 6.7 and bought the rolling chassis and is dropping the 12 valve Cummins out of his Dodge into it since the body is falling apart.


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Just remember that 80-85 percent of an iceberg is out of sight below the water!

And I think we are just beginning to see the tip of this particular iceberg! At 15-20 percent mass revolt will have kicked in.

Notice to Ford! Call Johnson and Johnson for counseling on how to handle crisis situation. DO NOT DO an "Audi" on your loyal customers.


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So how much does this magic potion cost?

And how about when my wife drives the truck to see her sick sister 1000 miles away? I have to train her to add this "Ford Cure" every time she stops for fuel??

Or how about when I am out in BFE and I run out - A really stupid solution to another Ford Diesel debacle.

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Flashman wrote:

So how much does this magic potion cost?

And how about when my wife drives the truck to see her sick sister 1000 miles away? I have to train her to add this "Ford Cure" every time she stops for fuel??

Or how about when I am out in BFE and I run out - A really stupid solution to another Ford Diesel debacle.


It's only a 'suggestion', not a mandatory use it or else denied warranty, right?

So, can one assume that if you don't use that stuff...warranty will
cover it ?

Ford/BG wrote:

The BG rep says the Ford dealer will be selling a case of BG additive with every oil change (included in the price) that will be suggested to be used in every tank. The BG additive is "DFC".


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